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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 3134799" data-attributes="member: 1356"><p>Darn, and here I thought the errata made it easier when it actually just confuses the issue more. If the errata had changed the second sentence and then <em>removed</em> the third sentence completely, I think we'd be left with a pretty balanced (and easy to understand) feat. I think that may have been the INTENT, but they seem to have failed miserably if it was.</p><p></p><p>The problem is in the language used: the power attack feat doesn't mention 'extra damage', it says "subtract a number from all melee attack rolls and add the same number to all melee damage rolls" or, for weapons used two-handed, "instead add twice the number subtracted from your attack rolls".</p><p></p><p>If the writer of Leap Attack had said, two or three times the number subtracted from your attack roll instead of, double or triple the 'extra damage from power attack', there wouldn't be any of this confusion. </p><p></p><p>So, for weapons used two-handed, is the 'extra damage' the amount subtracted from your attack roll which is doubled for a power attack <u>OR</u> tripled for a leap attack? Or is the 'extra damage' the doubled amount itself from the power attack, <u>ALL</u> of which gets tripled in a leap attack (for a net effect of 6x the amount subtracted from your attack roll)?</p><p></p><p>I think I'll give WOTC customer service a try, with a <em>specific</em> example so hopefully I'll get a clear answer. Not that that will actually clear up the issue based on how little faith folks seem to have in customer service, but at least it'll be something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 3134799, member: 1356"] Darn, and here I thought the errata made it easier when it actually just confuses the issue more. If the errata had changed the second sentence and then [i]removed[/i] the third sentence completely, I think we'd be left with a pretty balanced (and easy to understand) feat. I think that may have been the INTENT, but they seem to have failed miserably if it was. The problem is in the language used: the power attack feat doesn't mention 'extra damage', it says "subtract a number from all melee attack rolls and add the same number to all melee damage rolls" or, for weapons used two-handed, "instead add twice the number subtracted from your attack rolls". If the writer of Leap Attack had said, two or three times the number subtracted from your attack roll instead of, double or triple the 'extra damage from power attack', there wouldn't be any of this confusion. So, for weapons used two-handed, is the 'extra damage' the amount subtracted from your attack roll which is doubled for a power attack [u]OR[/u] tripled for a leap attack? Or is the 'extra damage' the doubled amount itself from the power attack, [u]ALL[/u] of which gets tripled in a leap attack (for a net effect of 6x the amount subtracted from your attack roll)? I think I'll give WOTC customer service a try, with a [i]specific[/i] example so hopefully I'll get a clear answer. Not that that will actually clear up the issue based on how little faith folks seem to have in customer service, but at least it'll be something. [/QUOTE]
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