LEB Discussion Thread '09

[ryryguy]

Finally starting to add my character to the wiki... OMG is it painful! Dealing with all the wiki templates is bad enough, but with ENWorld being so slow, it's torture!

A couple of wizardly questions:

Do I need to enter all the cantrips as powers with power stat blocks, or can I just list "cantrips" as a feature? (none of the cantrips have any "variables" based on my stats, etc IIRC)

How do I enter spellbook powers? I assume I add power stat blocks for them as usual, but am I supposed to designate which ones are memorized somehow? Or is that just done in the course of an adventure?

Also, just wondering general opinions re: are my equipment choices crazy? I am choosing as so:

level 1: n+1 for Cloak of Resistance +1 (level 2 item)
level 2: n+2 for Shimmering Cloth Armor +1 (level 4 item)
level 3: n's worth of gold. 680 gp!

Then I'm using that level 3 gold to buy a generic Magic Orb +1 (level 1 item), plus lots of rituals. I actually want an Orb of Inevitable Continuance +2, which is a level 8 item, so I can't start with it - it will be wish list item #1. Seems silly to start with an Orb of I.C. +1 only to discard it... but am I being foolish to take what are basically the "minimum" choices for starting stuff, instead of starting with more powerful things?

 

[ukingsken]

I dont think so, although couldn't you get the orb of IC +1 and then transfer the enchantment of a more powerful orb onto it later? Other then that the choices make sense to me.

Don't forget you also get gold aside from the parcel you chose (412 I believe).

 

[renau1g]

Yeah you're not a fool as this will leave both an n+3 & n+4 item coming by the time you get to 6th so either a 7th (4+3) and 9th (5+4) or two 8th (4+4) & (5+3).

So you trade the early power for the long term benefit.

 

[ryryguy]

How does it work to transfer an enchantment, exactly? I'm a little confused about that.

Also, do we get the +1 "free expertise" at level 4 or was it level 5? In any case, where do you enter that on the sheet?

 

[elecgraystone]

How does it work to transfer an enchantment, exactly? I'm a little confused about that.

Quite easily actually. Mind you, we should be calling it 'upgrading' instead of 'transfering'.

All you do is take the cost of your Orb of I.C. +1 and subtract that from the cost of your Orb of I.C. +2. Done. It's explained in the back of AV pg#198.

 

[renau1g]

I believe it was level 5. I would put it under feats (check out stonegod's sheet, he's got it) as a bonus feat.

 

[ryryguy]

Hmmm, regarding upgrading/transferring... that's cool, but I'm not sure how well it will work with our parcel system. Would I put "gp/residuum equal to the price difference between the Orb +1 and Orb +2" on my wishlist? But oops, I've already used my gp parcel! The n+4 parcel I still have coming might actually be an item worth more than that amount of gold, but I can't necessarily sell it for for full value... etc.

 

[renau1g]

You could always use a highre level parcel on a lower level item (ie level 9item gets you the level8 orb you want)

 

[elecgraystone]

Finally starting to add my character to the wiki... OMG is it painful! Dealing with all the wiki templates is bad enough, but with ENWorld being so slow, it's torture!

Yeah, I can understand. I'm having big issues JUST changing threads. I WAS going to start adding my character, but I may wait until they fix things.

Hmmm, regarding upgrading/transferring... that's cool, but I'm not sure how well it will work with our parcel system. Would I put "gp/residuum equal to the price difference between the Orb +1 and Orb +2" on my wishlist? But oops, I've already used my gp parcel! The n+4 parcel I still have coming might actually be an item worth more than that amount of gold, but I can't necessarily sell it for for full value... etc.

Quite honestly, my whole wish list IS gp/residuum/art objects. When I can make/upgrade my own items at my level + my INT bonus, why would I ask for anything else?

 

[stonegod]

OOC: My wife and I closed on our first house today, so expect some absence from me in the next few days.