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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6111403" data-attributes="member: 82106">So.... The game isn't about anything fantastic at all? I'm supposed to aspire to just 'build a castle'? and the entire terminology of the game is about that? Remember, name level was about level 9 in AD&D. Level 20 is likely about the end of the reasonably usable and achievable levels. And yes, adventurers are heroes. Show me a story where they aren't (once in a while they're bad guys, fine). I don't agree that making 'Apprentice levels' normal levels is "doing it right" (see my previous post, it skews the game design). I'm find if it is in the core, but it MAY be better to have it be very clearly a separate optional thing you can use if you so choose. As for what '0 level' means, IMHO NPCs never have levels at all, so it is immaterial what they are, PCs and NPCs are just different. If a character is an 'apprentice' once again why is he out running around in the world? Where is his master? How is it that 3 weeks later without any mentor this guy is going to be all studly? It really never makes much logical sense.</blockquote>