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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VinylTap" data-source="post: 6112973" data-attributes="member: 6697217">I didn't really talk about 'feel', but that's sort of that the comment that DMZ was talking about.There are difference in empahsis and mechanics in both of the systems, and expressing those differences clearly and in a non-inflammatory way is one of the struggles that seems to permeate this board. Calling 4th a 'miniature combat game' helps me, in my brain, to distill the differences in approach these games have. Its just one way of looking at it. In my mind its not a bashing or embracing of either system, but acknowledging they do different things, and that's just fact: the systems are different, but how do we talk about those differences in a productive matter? The reason, I think, that these thread go round and round and never end has to do with the basic fundamentals of what makes these games different beasts, but trying to get to the heart of that difference usually leads to a lot of misunderstandings and defensiveness.</blockquote>