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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MiketheMountain" data-source="post: 6710379" data-attributes="member: 6801214">Slap Chop!: Longtooth Shifter, Barbarian|Fighter, Moonstalker, Destined Scionby EndarrionOriginal post on 2012 August 08: <a href="http://community.wizards.com/content/forum-topic/3493631" target="_blank">http://community.wizards.com/content/forum-topic/3493631</a>[ATTACH]70600[/ATTACH]You're gonna love my NADs!Well, Fort at least.Inspired by LDB's Beowulf build and Armisael's Stand and Bang build, I present my own novice attempt at a build that combines the two.[sblock=Presenting Slap Chop!]====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======Slap Chop, level 30Longtooth Shifter, Barbarian/Fighter, Moonstalker, Destined ScionHybrid Talent Option: Fighter Combat TalentFighter Combat Talent Option: Brawler Style (Hybrid)Circle the Prey Option: Circle the Prey StrengthEpic Heroism Option: StrengthEpic Heroism Option: DexterityAuspicious Birth (Auspicious Birth Benefit)Theme: Sohei FINAL ABILITY SCORESSTR 28, CON 14, DEX 22, INT 10, WIS 20, CHA 12 STARTING ABILITY SCORESSTR 16, CON 11, DEX 16, INT 8, WIS 13, CHA 10  AC: 45 Fort: 56 Ref: 45 Will: 45HP: 217 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 54 TRAINED SKILLSAthletics +30, Endurance +23, Intimidate +23 UNTRAINED SKILLSAcrobatics +20, Arcana +15, Bluff +16, Diplomacy +16, Dungeoneering +20, Heal +20, History +15, Insight +22, Nature +20, Perception +22, Religion +15, Stealth +20, Streetwise +16, Thievery +20 POWERSBasic Attack: Melee Basic AttackBasic Attack: Ranged Basic AttackSohei Attack: Sohei FlurryLongtooth Shifter Racial Power: Longtooth ShiftingFighter Attack: Combat ChallengeFighter Attack 1: Grappling StrikeBarbarian Attack 1: Howling StrikeFighter Utility 2: Forceful DragBarbarian Utility 6: Run RampantFighter Utility 10: ClearheadedFighter Utility 10: Grappler's StanceMoonstalker Attack 11: Call to the MoonMoonstalker Utility 12: Unleash the Silent PredatorBarbarian Attack 13: Storm of BladesFighter Attack 15: Relentless HeadlockFighter Attack 19: Smash and GrabMoonstalker Attack 20: Circle the PreyFighter Utility 22: Slayer's DefianceFighter Attack 23: Trollclaw GripDestined Scion Utility 26: Epic RecoveryBarbarian Attack 27: Hurricane of BladesBarbarian Attack 29: World Serpent RageDestined Scion Utility 30: Undeniable Victory FEATSLevel 1: Hybrid TalentLevel 2: Inescapable HoldLevel 4: World Serpent's GraspLevel 6: Pin DownLevel 8: Headsman's ChopLevel 10: Improved GrabLevel 11: Master at ArmsLevel 12: Improved DefensesLevel 14: Brawler GuardLevel 16: Marked ScourgeLevel 18: Crushing PinLevel 20: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)Level 21: Epic FortitudeLevel 22: Crushing GrabLevel 24: Slashing StormLevel 26: Heavy Blade MasteryLevel 28: Epic WillLevel 30: Epic Reflexes ITEMSFeyslaughter Longsword +6 x1Trollskin Nightmare Hide Armor +6 x1Steadfast Amulet +6 x1Iron Armbands of Power (epic tier) x1Defiant Boots x1Diamond Cincture (epic tier) x1Gauntlets of Brutality x1Elven Chain Shirt (paragon tier)Eye of Awareness x1Ring of Personal Gravity x1Ring of Fury x1Backlash Tattoo x1====== End ======[/sblock]So, the idea is pretty simple.  Grab the target, prone it, and hack it to pieces.Against prone enemies, Slap Chop can get:9 Str Mod2d6 per hit (Go For the Throat)5 Wis mod (Pack Tactics)6 Dex mod (Slayer's Defiance stance)5 extra dmg (Headsman's Chop)5 extra dmg (Gauntlets of Brutality)6 extra dmg (Iron Armbands)6 extra dmg (+6 weapon)3 extra dmg (Weapon Focus)5 Wis mod once/round (Slashing Storm)5 Wis mod once/round (Marked Scourge)14 extra dmg sustained grab (Crushing Grab)= 52 average static damage per hit, and an extra 24 once per round.Also, the enemy takes Dex mod damage any time they try to escape (Crushing Pin) and once per day, the enemy is restrained for the duration of the grab (Grappler's Stance).  He also gets 3 basic attacks in reaction to being bloodied (Ring of Fury and Backlash Tatoo).With the multiattacks from the Barbarian class, this really starts to add up.  And, with his sky-high Fortitude, no one is getting out of his grasp unless he lets them.The biggest hurdle is 1st level where Slap Chop is basically half a Barbarian for a level.  Howling Strike only requires a weapon be wielded in two hands (not a two-handed weapon) so Slap Chop can use his longsword in two hands (and even gain an extra 1 dmg!!) and use that power, so he's not completely useless.  Plus powers can be taken and retrained at new levels in order to make that 1st level more bearable.  Starting at 2nd level though, you've got all escape attempts going through Fort, so you're officially a good single-target lockdown defender and single-target striker!  By 6 you're completely ready to go with the grab tactic. Throughout heroic though, you will struggle with your AC compared to average defenders. This can be compensated for with MC Cleric for Battle Cleric's lore, of course, but beyond that, I'm not sure how to get heavy armor and keep the other stats up.  If you switch race you can go with Tactical Warpriest as the PP and still be pretty formidable though.So yeah, I'm a CO novice, so I'm sure there's improvements that can be made.  For instance, a way to get heavy armor or the Con for Second Skin while keeping damage up would be useful, as well as just making the build less MAD in general.  Also, more forced movement denial would be good as well.Thoughts?[HR][/HR]From the thread:Zathris: Biggest hurdle for this character is that you don't deal it's good damage until the 2nd round per target, which is worthless from a striker perspective.Endarrion: Worthless?  Even the old Time Bomb build had a round of set up.  It was for a much bigger payoff, granted, but it's not the end of the world. Also, this is a hybrid defender/striker, so I don't think it's that big of a deal to spend a round "defending" to set up the striker nova.  And he can still grab two enemies and squeeze them into a slow death after the nova, so he is a legitimate defender, if not a great one.</blockquote>

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