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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yesminde" data-source="post: 3674329" data-attributes="member: 54072">Why even have negative HP at all?  Any number you use requires tracking by someone.  Here's a system I came up with on the fly that uses no immediate tracking:1.  If the blow that would drop you to 0 HP is a crit, you are dead, end of discussion.2.  If it's not a crit, make a fort save vs. damage done.  If you make it, you're still conscious and disabled, if not, you're dying and unconscious.3.  Strenous activity while disabled = dying (the Diehard feat would enable you to make a fort save DC 20 to remain conscious while dying, which would stack better with Endurance because Endurance would give you a +4 to this save)5. Dying characters must make another fort save in 5 minutes (DC 20) and either stabilize or die.  Endurance feat would add to this roll as well.Alternate extra dying Heal rules:1. A successful Heal check DC 10 can stabilize a passed out character, meaning that they don't have to make a fort save to stay alive, and a DC 20 check can restore a passed out person to disabled but conscious.2.  Disabled people only heal when they are left to rest peacefully.  After each day of peaceful rest, they make a fort save DC 20 - days of rest (can be replaced by a Heal check) to recover from disabled.  Once they recover, they regain hit points normally.  (This could probably be modified in various ways to account for various states of convalescene.)  Why I think this is a useful method:It has a rule to deal with instant death (crits)It can handle such real-life situations as a desperately injured person driving himself to the emergency room (or in D&D, figuring some non-strenuous way to get on a horse then letting the horse take him to civilization)It makes the Diehard and Endurance feats actually quite useful.Heal makes more sense to me this way.</blockquote>

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