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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bacris" data-source="post: 5842591" data-attributes="member: 42502">Human Rogue (Scout, Thug)Feats:1st: Weapon FinesseHuman Bonus: Sap Adept3rd: Knockout Artist5th: Sap MasteryRogue Talents:2nd: Ninja Trick (Unarmed Combat Training)4th: Combat Trick (Enforcer)So at 5th level, whenever you charge someone, they are flatfooted (thanks to scout). Since they are flat footed, you deal double nonlethal sneak attack damage (6d6, thanks to sap mastery).Since you were using your pimp-hand to deal the damage, you deal 1.5 times your level in extra damage due to sap adept and knockout artist. (In this case at level 5, 9 extra damage)Now Enforcer comes into play, you can intimidate your foe as a free action, because you dealth nonlethal damage (Hope you didn't dump cha). If you succeed, they are shaken for a number of rounds based on the damage you just did (6d6 + 9 minimum), so lets say, forever, basically.Thats -2 to attacks, skills, saves....Or you could switch all those rounds of shaken for one round of frightend (via the thug archetype) where:Quote:A frightened creature flees from the source of its fear as best it can. If unable to flee, it may fight. A frightened creature takes a –2 penalty on all attack rolls, saving throws, skill checks, and ability checks. A frightened creature can use special abilities, including spells, to flee; indeed, the creature must use such means if they are the only way to escape.Frightened is like shaken, except that the creature must flee if possible. Panicked is a more extreme state of fear.Which is basically taking any enemy out of the fight for one round, guarunteed and best part is, no save. And since the target for intimidate is static (10 + HD + wis mod), boost it enough (I recommend a cane that gives you an enhancement bonus to intimidate) and you don't have to worry about the enemy making a lucky roll.That's at 5th level, will expand to 10th.</blockquote>

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