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<blockquote data-quote="CM" data-source="post: 5909139" data-attributes="member: 18340"><p>I don't want to speak for every fan of class balance, but I don't think anybody is seriously asking for classes to be equally capable in all situations. We just want to make sure 5e has no classes that can make another class completely redundant (CODzilla, etc.). It's important that no class played as-intended is completely dominant in a pillar in such a way that the DM is forced to develop countering strategies to ensure that the obstacle, opponent, or NPC isn't trivially defeated. If something is trivially defeated, it might as well not be there.</p><p></p><p>In my perfect world, each class would get a special boost to one pillar but still remain competent in the other two:</p><p></p><p>Bard</p><p>Excels at social, competent in combat, exploration</p><p></p><p>Fighter</p><p>Excels at combat, competent in social, exploration</p><p></p><p>Rogue</p><p>Excels at exploration, competent in combat, social</p><p></p><p>Wizard:</p><p>Varies depending on school specialty, but only excelling at one pillar.</p><p></p><p>Cleric: </p><p>Varies depending on god, but only excelling at one pillar.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CM, post: 5909139, member: 18340"] I don't want to speak for every fan of class balance, but I don't think anybody is seriously asking for classes to be equally capable in all situations. We just want to make sure 5e has no classes that can make another class completely redundant (CODzilla, etc.). It's important that no class played as-intended is completely dominant in a pillar in such a way that the DM is forced to develop countering strategies to ensure that the obstacle, opponent, or NPC isn't trivially defeated. If something is trivially defeated, it might as well not be there. In my perfect world, each class would get a special boost to one pillar but still remain competent in the other two: Bard Excels at social, competent in combat, exploration Fighter Excels at combat, competent in social, exploration Rogue Excels at exploration, competent in combat, social Wizard: Varies depending on school specialty, but only excelling at one pillar. Cleric: Varies depending on god, but only excelling at one pillar. [/QUOTE]
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