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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9650481" data-attributes="member: 7026594">And make it guaranteed every time you hit?&nbsp; Seems opposed to the spirit of the class and how Deeds work in DCC.Checking with the referee is not much of a step. It ceases to be a step at all once you figure out the monster's AC, which a lot of OSR DMs are open about in the first place.Certainly it's harder to do against monsters with higher AC, but isn't that also true in DCC?&nbsp; That you have to roll 3+ on the deed die AND score a successful hit?I took a peek in the SD quick-start, and it looks like there are only two monsters in there with a 16 AC and one with a 17.&nbsp; So assuming you have at least a 12 on your attack attribute, even at first level you can (though the odds are long) succeed on a Deed against any monster* in the quick start.&nbsp; And it looks like most monsters are more in the 12-14 range, which gives you better than the odds a low level Warrior has in DCC.&nbsp; You could also easily add a caveat that you always get your deed on a nat 20.&nbsp; That's simple.(*Edit: Missed the Stone Golem having an 18 AC.).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9650481, member: 7026594"] And make it guaranteed every time you hit? Seems opposed to the spirit of the class and how Deeds work in DCC. Checking with the referee is not much of a step. It ceases to be a step at all once you figure out the monster's AC, which a lot of OSR DMs are open about in the first place. Certainly it's harder to do against monsters with higher AC, but isn't that also true in DCC? That you have to roll 3+ on the deed die AND score a successful hit? I took a peek in the SD quick-start, and it looks like there are only two monsters in there with a 16 AC and one with a 17. So assuming you have at least a 12 on your attack attribute, even at first level you can (though the odds are long) succeed on a Deed against any monster* in the quick start. And it looks like most monsters are more in the 12-14 range, which gives you better than the odds a low level Warrior has in DCC. You could also easily add a caveat that you always get your deed on a nat 20. That's simple. [I](*Edit: Missed the Stone Golem having an 18 AC.).[/I] [/QUOTE]

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