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<blockquote data-quote="Arcane Runes Press" data-source="post: 2034805" data-attributes="member: 402"><p>First, you're seriously mischaracterizing the romantic fantasy audience, in the same way that those who say gamers are "fat virgin losers with dreams of grandeur" mischaracterize the D&D audience. </p><p></p><p>Second, you're way off base with Buffy. It's a close cousin to romantic fantasy, through and through, even accounting for Joss Whedon's love of irreverence. </p><p></p><p>The whole story, from season 1 through 7, is all about the transformation from child to adult, and the development of relationships, and Joss Whedon and his writers embrace the conventions of those sorts of stories as much as, or even more than they mock them.</p><p></p><p>Season 2's arc would fit perfectly as a romantic fantasy novel: love betrayed and redeemed, the world threatened by the actions of a lover, and saved by the sacrifice of the same.</p><p></p><p>Season 3 is about family, and to a lesser degree sisterhood, and the climax of the story isn't the death of the mayor, it's the moment where the teens of Sunnydale stand up and fight - they're leaving their childhood behind, and making a place as adults. </p><p></p><p>Season 5 begins the story arc that runs through the rest of the seasons, with Spike beginning to be redeemed by his love for Buffy, and Buffy taking on the mother role as she assumes responsibility for her sister. And, again, the world is saved through a sacrifice made out of love - only this time, it's Buffy sacrificing herself to save her child/sister, Dawn. </p><p></p><p>Season 6 is again about relationships, and love, and the world ending threat is sparked by pointless hatred (born from misogyny), and ended by an irony free scene about the redemptive power of love - a theme that's everywhere in romantic fantasy. </p><p></p><p>Season 7 is all about female empowerment, and the strength of emotional bonds. We see Buffy reject the power offered by the men who bound the first slayer, and find her own strength with the help of her sisters, and we see the First evil destroyed only because of Spike's love for Buffy. </p><p></p><p>And the character of Buffy is a subversion of the typical female horror role in the same way that many of the characters in romantic fantasy are subversions of the typical roles for women in fantasy.</p><p></p><p>It would be incredibly easy to use Blue Rose's setting, as is, to run a Buffy-style game. Minor villains and big bads as stand in for real world issues, romantic and familial entanglements... it's all right there in the setting. </p><p></p><p>Patrick Y.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arcane Runes Press, post: 2034805, member: 402"] First, you're seriously mischaracterizing the romantic fantasy audience, in the same way that those who say gamers are "fat virgin losers with dreams of grandeur" mischaracterize the D&D audience. Second, you're way off base with Buffy. It's a close cousin to romantic fantasy, through and through, even accounting for Joss Whedon's love of irreverence. The whole story, from season 1 through 7, is all about the transformation from child to adult, and the development of relationships, and Joss Whedon and his writers embrace the conventions of those sorts of stories as much as, or even more than they mock them. Season 2's arc would fit perfectly as a romantic fantasy novel: love betrayed and redeemed, the world threatened by the actions of a lover, and saved by the sacrifice of the same. Season 3 is about family, and to a lesser degree sisterhood, and the climax of the story isn't the death of the mayor, it's the moment where the teens of Sunnydale stand up and fight - they're leaving their childhood behind, and making a place as adults. Season 5 begins the story arc that runs through the rest of the seasons, with Spike beginning to be redeemed by his love for Buffy, and Buffy taking on the mother role as she assumes responsibility for her sister. And, again, the world is saved through a sacrifice made out of love - only this time, it's Buffy sacrificing herself to save her child/sister, Dawn. Season 6 is again about relationships, and love, and the world ending threat is sparked by pointless hatred (born from misogyny), and ended by an irony free scene about the redemptive power of love - a theme that's everywhere in romantic fantasy. Season 7 is all about female empowerment, and the strength of emotional bonds. We see Buffy reject the power offered by the men who bound the first slayer, and find her own strength with the help of her sisters, and we see the First evil destroyed only because of Spike's love for Buffy. And the character of Buffy is a subversion of the typical female horror role in the same way that many of the characters in romantic fantasy are subversions of the typical roles for women in fantasy. It would be incredibly easy to use Blue Rose's setting, as is, to run a Buffy-style game. Minor villains and big bads as stand in for real world issues, romantic and familial entanglements... it's all right there in the setting. Patrick Y. [/QUOTE]
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