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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2038301" data-attributes="member: 22882">If you think the fact that the Blue Rose setting goes against the established norm is why I dislike it, you obviously don't know what I like. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> You're right, romantic fantasy isn't new.  We've had plenty of time to become familiar with the basic gist of it, and we despise that gist.  The whole "hidebound" thing might have worked when the genre first came out, and with a different objector.I'm thrilled whenever I see steampunk fantasy, science fantasy, cyber-fantasy, alignmentless-gritty-fantasy, anthropomorphic animal fantasy, anime fantasy, spellless-gritty-fantasy, horror-fantasy, super hero fantasy, gritty-super-hero-fantasy, oriental fantasy, african fantasy, or any combination of the above.  Eberron I liked, until I realized it didn't go nearly far enough.  Spelljammer was my holy grail in 2e.  Dark Sun was number 2.  Conan is my cup of tea today.  The Iron Kingdoms and Rokugan are my prime alternates.  d20 Modern I prefer over D&D.  Call of Cthulu d20 is my favorite magic system.If that's hidebound, I'd hate to meet open-minded. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> I have very specific complaints about Blue Rose's setting and the genre it's based on, and, yes, they do turn my stomach.  Or make me bust out laughing.Yet Another Realms Knockoff... I seem to recall tossing basically that accusation at quite a few products, particularly those that target D&D nostalgia, and finding them quite distasteful.I see a lot of new ground that I like, setting-wise.  Blue Rose is most emphatically not among them.Anyway, who's producing Yet Another Realms Knockoff these days?  Arcana Unearthed is too standard fantasy for my tastes, but it's certainly not much like the Realms.  Iron Kingdoms?  Conan?  Midnight?  Slavelords of Cydonia?  Black Company?  Warcraft?  Eberron?About the closest I can see are the old skool products, Blackmoor and C&C, and those are more knockoffs (or in Blackmoor's case, a resurrection) of the setting(s) the Realms was something of a knockoff of in the first place.  And they're quite different in their own respective rights.</blockquote>

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