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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2039529" data-attributes="member: 22882">Well, in 3.x's defense, I'm very interested in the Blue Rose system but not necessarily to the exclusion of 3.x.  Although I might revise my opinion when I actually get a good long look at the system, I'm not prepared to declare it flatly better than D&D 3.5, still less than d20 Modern.Also, 3.x has a proven track record of being popular, whereas Blue Rose doesn't (at least, not yet).  Popularity on ENWorld does not always translate into universal appeal.For that matter, a somewhat less elegant and significantly more detailed system, Conan the Roleplaying Game, is, to the best of my knowledge, the most successful and widespread d20 variant on the market.While I find both Conan and what I've seen of Blue Rose better in some respects than 3.x D&D, I wouldn't scrap the latter for either of the former.And the 3e team did make the game more natural and obvious than 2e.  They may have reached a level of nature and obviousness that appeals to the largest contingent of gamers.  Then again, they may have erred in one direction or the other, or have made other compromises in the sake of nature and obviousness.  Blue Rose may do the same.I'm certainly 100% in favor of all three of these changes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Although, I do prefer the gobs and gobs of base and prestige classes system to the 1-6 very flexible base classes system.I think this is part of it, but not in the way you mean.d20 introduced a level of consistency (and a focus on balance) that D&D never had before, and other RPGs had to a lesser extent.  I'm not even sure if SilCore was as elegant then as a stripped-down d20 is now, as I only have its rulebooks since the post-d20 revision.Without the incredible amount of work that went into developing and hammering out the original d20 system, the more refined Blue Rose system probably would have been whole levels of development away.</blockquote>

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