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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 2039715" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I don't dispute that.</p><p></p><p>But the pro-BR side has this whole "we are open-minded, therefore the other side must be closed minded, therefore, in the interest of open-mindedness, their position must not be tolerated." thing going. And I'll readily admit that THAT is a real peeve of mine.</p><p></p><p>Based on comments by both pro and anti-BR people, I am distinctly of the impression that the BR "evil" Theocracy is a political cartoon caricature of real world political ideas that some people honestly view as "good" themselves. Yet in this thread you have compared setting them as the good guys to favoring the Empire and in the thread over in general you compared it to favoring the evil gods of Midnight. If you can not comprehend the vast difference between purely fictional presentations of pure evil and politically inspired characterizations of opposing views AS evil, then it is hard to accept that you have fairly considered the perspectives. I'm certain I could throw out some campaign ideas that would get just as much vitrol from the other side. </p><p></p><p>Honestly, my one concern is appearing to actually support the opposition to BR. I'm not opposed to it. I'm just opposed to its defenders here at ENWorld. </p><p>I think the people who are attacking the setting outright are self-righteous and wrong.</p><p>I think the people who are counter attacking them are self-righteous and wrong and hypocritical.</p><p></p><p>I don't think anyone from Green Ronin falls in either of those groups.</p><p></p><p>I also don't see how this discussion can go much further without delving deeply into politics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 2039715, member: 957"] I don't dispute that. But the pro-BR side has this whole "we are open-minded, therefore the other side must be closed minded, therefore, in the interest of open-mindedness, their position must not be tolerated." thing going. And I'll readily admit that THAT is a real peeve of mine. Based on comments by both pro and anti-BR people, I am distinctly of the impression that the BR "evil" Theocracy is a political cartoon caricature of real world political ideas that some people honestly view as "good" themselves. Yet in this thread you have compared setting them as the good guys to favoring the Empire and in the thread over in general you compared it to favoring the evil gods of Midnight. If you can not comprehend the vast difference between purely fictional presentations of pure evil and politically inspired characterizations of opposing views AS evil, then it is hard to accept that you have fairly considered the perspectives. I'm certain I could throw out some campaign ideas that would get just as much vitrol from the other side. Honestly, my one concern is appearing to actually support the opposition to BR. I'm not opposed to it. I'm just opposed to its defenders here at ENWorld. I think the people who are attacking the setting outright are self-righteous and wrong. I think the people who are counter attacking them are self-righteous and wrong and hypocritical. I don't think anyone from Green Ronin falls in either of those groups. I also don't see how this discussion can go much further without delving deeply into politics. [/QUOTE]
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