Level Benefits or Class Benefits, which comes first?

[FireLance]

Why not just bump feats to step 9, then? Would it mess up anything if we do that?

 

[Elethiomel]

Not that I can see, unless there are some class features that depend on feats. I can't think of any, but then I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of all the sourcebooks and splatbooks (where does "splatbook" come from anyway?) out there.

 

[Engilbrand]

I think games I've been in have just let you do whatever you need to do right then. If you need BAB +6 for a feat, you can take it at level 6 if you have that BAB. If, on the other hand, you need to get a feat to enter a PrC, say at level 6, then you can take the feat at level 6 and then enter the PrC. The order of operations has always been whatever would make the most sense right then.

 

[Nifft]

Yes. After all, Power Attack requires BAB +1, and it can be taken at 1st level by a fighter....

That's not funny.

-- N

 

[hong]

That's not funny.

-- N

Nifft, you EVIL TROLL. How dare you impugn my integrity and rules knowledge in so SHAMELESS a manner.



Whew, that was close

 

[Hypersmurf]

(where does "splatbook" come from anyway?)

My understanding is that you originally had the general core books, and then a bunch of specialist books.

The Fighter book. The Priest book. The Mage book. The Elf book. And so on.

When referring to these specialist books collectively, some people used a wildcard - "You can find a kit in the * book", where * can be replaced by whatever is relevant.

An asterisk is sometimes pronounced as 'splat', just as an exclamation point is sometimes pronounced as 'shriek'.

So 'the * books' became 'the splat books'.

That's the explanation I heard, at any rate.

-Hyp.

 

[Funkthis]

Hmmm...you learn something everyday.

 

[pawsplay]

The paragraph goes on to indicate that feats and skills are selected at the same time, which argues that steps 6 and 7, at least, from p58 occur simultaneously.

-Hyp.

Which is good news for the monks in the audience.

 

[pawsplay]

My understanding is that you originally had the general core books, and then a bunch of specialist books.

The Fighter book. The Priest book. The Mage book. The Elf book. And so on.

When referring to these specialist books collectively, some people used a wildcard - "You can find a kit in the * book", where * can be replaced by whatever is relevant.

An asterisk is sometimes pronounced as 'splat', just as an exclamation point is sometimes pronounced as 'shriek'.

So 'the * books' became 'the splat books'.

That's the explanation I heard, at any rate.

-Hyp.

that is essentially correct, except that, AFAIK, the term originated on the White Wolf Unsenet groups.

 

[Charwoman Gene]

Yes, it's a WoD ism.
Y'see you had your "Clanbooks", and "Tribebooks" and "Tradition Books"

Thus Referring to the "Character Option" books as *books.
Splat-books.