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<blockquote data-quote="ren1999" data-source="post: 6045296" data-attributes="member: 85179">Sleep would be an enchantment/charm/control like spell that forces someone to do something they would otherwise not do. This is going to have to require a spell DC versus ? wisdom save?Every enemy that views the wizard should be affected? Or just make every enemy roll a save or fall asleep. Of course, the enemy will wake up either by taking an automatic hit and regularly rolled damage, or being slapped or shaken by an ally. The spell will then be negated at that time but lasts for as long as it takes till those conditions are met.I want to take this time to once again promote the idea of enchantment spells hierarchy. sleep is the least powerful, the worst that can happen is that an enemy can take damage oncehold person could be more powerful because if the enemy doesn't save, the enemy is subject to being auto hit again.charm person is even more useful because the enemy could be made to attack other enemies, each attack could be subject to a save roll or the spell is brokensummon person is the most powerful because you can get a new henchman that way that will help you throughout the campaign. Now change 'person' to 'being' and we've got a very effective set of enchantments.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ren1999, post: 6045296, member: 85179"] Sleep would be an enchantment/charm/control like spell that forces someone to do something they would otherwise not do. This is going to have to require a spell DC versus ? wisdom save? Every enemy that views the wizard should be affected? Or just make every enemy roll a save or fall asleep. Of course, the enemy will wake up either by taking an automatic hit and regularly rolled damage, or being slapped or shaken by an ally. The spell will then be negated at that time but lasts for as long as it takes till those conditions are met. I want to take this time to once again promote the idea of enchantment spells hierarchy. sleep is the least powerful, the worst that can happen is that an enemy can take damage once hold person could be more powerful because if the enemy doesn't save, the enemy is subject to being auto hit again. charm person is even more useful because the enemy could be made to attack other enemies, each attack could be subject to a save roll or the spell is broken summon person is the most powerful because you can get a new henchman that way that will help you throughout the campaign. Now change 'person' to 'being' and we've got a very effective set of enchantments. [/QUOTE]

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