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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 3221767" data-attributes="member: 13098">OK, it looks like you are houserulling the EOM rules a bit, but that's cool!A few thoughts:&nbsp; 1d6+10 is an average of 13.5 Con damage.&nbsp; Thus it is closer to 4d6 damage for 15 SP (Convert 4d6 damage in Evoke death to 1d6 ability damage - 15 sp would provide 16 dice of damage).&nbsp; Summoning a CR 3 creature is 3 SP.&nbsp; But that only gives you limited time for control.&nbsp; A Transform to a CR 3 creatures is 6 SP.&nbsp; Is this intended as a permanent control of the created undead?&nbsp; Since it isn't an assured conversion, maybe a 4 SP cost.&nbsp; I'm not sure I would allow a cost reduction for a touch only spell.&nbsp; I see it mostly as flavor text, but there are probably enough tweaks in the system to allow touch spells to be delivered in a different manner that it makes sense.&nbsp; I definitely wouldn't reduce the cost by 4 SP for the con damage on the caster.&nbsp; 1d4 is an average of 2.5.&nbsp; For a -4 I would insist on a 1d6 con damage and make the spellcaster suck it up.&nbsp; For 1d4 I would give a -2 or maybe -3 SP reduction.Best case scenario, I stat that out as 15 Sp.&nbsp; Which is 7-8th level in spell levels.&nbsp; Pretty high level spell, but then again it does much more than even Enervation.&nbsp; Death through enervation doesn't turn you into a compliant tool for your enemy.&nbsp; There are interesting implications when you turn somebody into an undead creature and then sequester them away safely.&nbsp; They can't be brought back to life as easily.&nbsp; Looks like a cool spell with nifty flavor.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BSF, post: 3221767, member: 13098"] OK, it looks like you are houserulling the EOM rules a bit, but that's cool! A few thoughts: 1d6+10 is an average of 13.5 Con damage. Thus it is closer to 4d6 damage for 15 SP (Convert 4d6 damage in Evoke death to 1d6 ability damage - 15 sp would provide 16 dice of damage). Summoning a CR 3 creature is 3 SP. But that only gives you limited time for control. A Transform to a CR 3 creatures is 6 SP. Is this intended as a permanent control of the created undead? Since it isn't an assured conversion, maybe a 4 SP cost. I'm not sure I would allow a cost reduction for a touch only spell. I see it mostly as flavor text, but there are probably enough tweaks in the system to allow touch spells to be delivered in a different manner that it makes sense. I definitely wouldn't reduce the cost by 4 SP for the con damage on the caster. 1d4 is an average of 2.5. For a -4 I would insist on a 1d6 con damage and make the spellcaster suck it up. For 1d4 I would give a -2 or maybe -3 SP reduction. Best case scenario, I stat that out as 15 Sp. Which is 7-8th level in spell levels. Pretty high level spell, but then again it does much more than even Enervation. Death through enervation doesn't turn you into a compliant tool for your enemy. There are interesting implications when you turn somebody into an undead creature and then sequester them away safely. They can't be brought back to life as easily. Looks like a cool spell with nifty flavor. [/QUOTE]

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