Limited Wish and XP Cost

[Philip]

On a related note: once you have Limited Wish, is there any reason why you would want to add Permanency to your spellbook, since you can duplicate it with a Limited Wish?

 

[Altalazar]

Just remember to buff up before casting using that wish... I'd recommend 'Protection from GM rulings'.

I think I could pass any GM ruling on that one... look at the wording very carefully...

 

[sithramir]

On a related note: once you have Limited Wish, is there any reason why you would want to add Permanency to your spellbook, since you can duplicate it with a Limited Wish?

When you duplicate the Permanency you'd still have to pay the normal exp cost or the 300 (WHICHEVER IS MORE!) so you'd just have used a higher level spell to do something similar. Cool way to use it if you had Permanency on a banned school I guess.

 

[Cheiromancer]

When you duplicate the Permanency you'd still have to pay the normal exp cost or the 300 (WHICHEVER IS MORE!) so you'd just have used a higher level spell to do something similar. Cool way to use it if you had Permanency on a banned school I guess.

Permanency is a universal spell, so it is never a prohibited spell.

And it always costs at least 500 xp. So the cost will always be the same as if you had just cast permanency.

A possible advantage to Limited Wish is when a spell isn't on the list:

The DM may allow other selected spells to be made permanent. Researching this possible application of a spell costs as much time and money as independently researching the selected spell (see the Dungeon Master's Guide for details). If the DM has already determined that the application is not possible, the research automatically fails. Note that you never learn what is possible except by the success or failure of your research.

So if you try to use Limited Wish to make a spell permanent that is not on the list, what happens? A plausible interpretation is that the DM decides on the spot whether the spell could be made permanent given sufficient research. If it is possible, then the Limited Wish works. If it is not possible, the Limited Wish doesn't work, and the character has just wasted 300 xp.

Wasting 300 xp is probably better than wasting time and gold in fruitless research.