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<blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 302354" data-attributes="member: 354">I specificly stated I don't care if it was D20, though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm not fussy.Actualy, The Riddle of Steel would be my system-of-choice for doing A Song of Ice and Fire as an RPG. Best combat system I know of <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And how is a mostly humanocentric setting bad for D20? My custom campaign setting is almost totaly humanocentric as well. *edit*, and SPOILERS, if you havn't read all the currently out books!....I said SPOILERS...Yes, SPOILERS...Though, magic is a TOUCH more prevelant than you are giving it credit for. There seems to be a lot of magic in the Free Cities areas... And a lot of the old orders in the Seven Kingdoms were actualy magic users, they just didn't HAVE any magic to use... once the three dragons were reborn, magic seems to be comming back... evidence the Alchemists Guild, which had some of their &quot;warding rituals&quot; start actualy doing something all of a sudden... Or Thalos of Myr, who suddenly can heal and resurect. And magic might not have been totaly gone even before that, you just had to resort to uglier ways of getting it... For example, remember why Varys(sp?) was a eunuch in the first place? And Valarian Steel might be magical, slightly. Or the freeky stuff that is happening with the Stark men... Jon and Bran anyhow, Rickon I'm not sure about...Besides, I would hardly consider giving birth to a shadow-demon-thing a &quot;few mutterings&quot; by Melisandre...Magic is, on the other hand, DARKER than any existing D20 system I know of, with the exception of maybe some of the Mongoose books... but those are dark in the wrong way, most of them... Chaos Magic and Necromancy are gritty, but in the wrong way... Demonology has the right &quot;feel&quot;, but doesn't really suit the setting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tsyr, post: 302354, member: 354"] I specificly stated I don't care if it was D20, though :) I'm not fussy. Actualy, The Riddle of Steel would be my system-of-choice for doing A Song of Ice and Fire as an RPG. Best combat system I know of :) And how is a mostly humanocentric setting bad for D20? My custom campaign setting is almost totaly humanocentric as well. *edit*, and SPOILERS, if you havn't read all the currently out books! . . . . I said SPOILERS . . . Yes, SPOILERS . . . Though, magic is a TOUCH more prevelant than you are giving it credit for. There seems to be a lot of magic in the Free Cities areas... And a lot of the old orders in the Seven Kingdoms were actualy magic users, they just didn't HAVE any magic to use... once the three dragons were reborn, magic seems to be comming back... evidence the Alchemists Guild, which had some of their "warding rituals" start actualy doing something all of a sudden... Or Thalos of Myr, who suddenly can heal and resurect. And magic might not have been totaly gone even before that, you just had to resort to uglier ways of getting it... For example, remember why Varys(sp?) was a eunuch in the first place? And Valarian Steel might be magical, slightly. Or the freeky stuff that is happening with the Stark men... Jon and Bran anyhow, Rickon I'm not sure about... Besides, I would hardly consider giving birth to a shadow-demon-thing a "few mutterings" by Melisandre... Magic is, on the other hand, DARKER than any existing D20 system I know of, with the exception of maybe some of the Mongoose books... but those are dark in the wrong way, most of them... Chaos Magic and Necromancy are gritty, but in the wrong way... Demonology has the right "feel", but doesn't really suit the setting. [/QUOTE]

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