Living After The Sun Died

[Corbert]

Hmmm, one thing I've only seen briefly touched on are the actions of the deities. Pelor in particular I think would immediately send his faithful on a quest to restart/replace the sun. Other deities, even evil ones, IMO would cooperate to beat down Illithid plans to shut off/destroy the sun. They wouldn't want the competition . This would be great to have a mixed alignment party that absolutely has to work together to save the world.

Pelor to paladin: yes I know he's a Blackguard and betrayed me years ago, yes he slaughtered your cousins, uncles, aunts, pets, etc. But you have to work with him now to help save the world. Later we'll see .

 

[Slife]

The basic premise requires a giant handwave - just assume it works and don't worry about it. Science and fantasy don't get along well at all.

If you try to inject logic into normal DnD, the world is either drowned by decanters of endless water or loses its atmosphere from spheres of annihilation. Since there have to be a bunch of portals to elemental air anyway, suffocation is a non-issue.

 

[eyebeams]

Hmm... without quotes doesn't work either.

Whoops! Type ssirik akuar instead -- ironically, it turns out there *was* a typo after all.

 

[Nadaka]

I still say that the idea that all life will be destroyed is incorrect. A lot of organic matter will be frozen and preserved. And when the thaw comes, a lot of if will be deposited along with glacial till and mineral rich glacial melt water. that would be ideal for the return of plant life to the surface.

For the survival of life itself? consider natural cryobiotic qualities of some real life plants and animals. While we have no real data for anything surviving more than a few decades in such a state, it could be possible for some plants or seeds to survive and lead the way to the new ecology of the surface.

 

[Imagicka]

Greetings...

Arrgh. His writings are so difficult to read. His grammar is awful. Much like reading the Timecube site, although his ramblings are ... intelligable.

Well, the great thing about having a conspiracy nut like myself in these ranks, I can point you in the right direction. If your finding Zecharia Sitchin a little hard to read, there are lots of websites out there that sum it all up for you. Since we're talking about (and forgive me for saying this...) just a roleplaying game. So you don't need to be throughal about it.

You can get a general summary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin (May the Gods bless Wikipedia).

But if you really want to jump into this, then you might want to check out another author. Lloyd Pye, who wrote: "Everything You Know Is Wrong", who was strongly influenced by Zecharia Sitchin and is a lot easier to read. http://www.lloydpye.com/

 

[WayneLigon]

No, they're not.

I meant 'not just jerking your chain' I can't seem to keep track of typos anymore.

 

[Kristivas]

Is everyone in the world Psionic? Or is that the only option to PCs?

If there are wizards and druids and such, then could be places of refuge in the world with artificial sunlight (a temporary solution that became their permenant fix and needed to be maintained). If not light (because they'd need to remain hidden from the illithid), then at least artificial heat that gave off no light.

Technology (limited, gnomish technology!) could vent heat from below ground and volcanoes.

That, mixed with geothermal heat could be more than enough to allow you a world of darkness (before the new sun) without turning the planet into a sheet of ice. Icing over the globe would pretty much kill all plant and animal life (including most non-undead monsters) and that doesn't seem a very exciting world.

Imagine, if you will, a lot of races (both animal and sentient) having evolved to the constant darkness rather than just dying out. I think that would be a lot more interesting than just everything being slain in the ice-age

 

[Baron Opal]

Oooh! You could have windmills over vents; hot air blowing up spins the shaft. Like a waterwheel but with air.

 

[I'm A Banana]

The largest of the geothermal vent creatures is the Giant Tubeworm which has sulphur oxidising bacteria in their organs which they use to create 'food' (they otherwise have no mouth, gut or anus)

So if a world powered by chemosynthesis did exsist it would be one based on Oozes, Slimes and Tubeworms. On the surface however all life would be extinct within three years (until the oozes made the move)

In fact using the example of oozes might also explain what powers the Underdark - perhaps the lower levels of the underdark are inhabited by huge numbers of Ooze creatures which are preyed upon by the higher lifeforms (like Darkmantles )

Am I wierd for being totally enamored of a world like that?

The basic premise requires a giant handwave - just assume it works and don't worry about it. Science and fantasy don't get along well at all.

It doesn't require that much of a handwave. Certainly no more than any other idea. I mean, squid-people from beyond time just blew up your sun, and suddenly a world ruled by oozes, bacterial forests, and giant fungi is somehow requiring more suspension of disbelief?

It's an alternative to the "vast sheet of ice" theory, and definately one that is plausible enough to be a fantasy setting. In fact, considering that the illithids are from the underdark originally, one might think they have a hand in bringing such life to the surface, opening up rents and vents and actively farming the life to be fruitful on the sunless surface.

I like the idea of a psionic mucous world.

 

[Nifft]

squid-people from beyond time just blew up your sun, and suddenly a world ruled by oozes, bacterial forests, and giant fungi is somehow requiring more suspension of disbelief?

"If you don't eat your pudding, you can't have any meat! How can you have any meat if you don't eat your pudding?!"

Cheers, -- N