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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AdmundfortGeographer" data-source="post: 3711976" data-attributes="member: 4682">Living Greyhawk isn't dieing, it is being killed. There are tens of thousands of players playing it. Living City did die partly because of the 3.0 conversion, mostly because Organized Play (the company not the branch of WotC) tried to make players pay to play it. People left in waves rather than pay for what was once free, especially with Living Greyhawk freely available.Living Forgotten Realms will end at some point. How it ends depends on how many people playing it. That doesn't mean that the Forgotten Realms will die like Greyhawk is. As huge numbers of people buy Realms novels it will never end even after the Living campaign set there ends.However, I am convinced that if the Living campaign that was begun in 2000 with 3.0's release was set in the Realms to begin with and not in Greyhawk that we wouldn't be killing some hypothetical 8-year-old Living FR. We would be having a leap forward in the setting and a restart of the campaign. IMO, we are seeing an end to Living Greyhawk because it is Greyhawk and WotC doesn't want it around.</blockquote>