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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 3510338" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Nice to hear from you, Charles. I'm not an industry insider, but speaking as a consumer, I don't even KNOW these magazines, so I think that fact in and of itself says something. Granted, I was not a D&D player at that time, but I <em>was</em> an active gamer, and while I might have vaguely glanced at these on the shelf, I don't recall ever picking up either one. For that matter, during the pre-d20 era, I stopped getting either Dungeon OR Dragon, until I returned with 3e. Like many others, I completely skipped the 2e era (and this may explain my lack of familiarity with them).</p><p></p><p>RPG magazines would, I expect, be hard to sell because you're catering to such a diverse and segmented audience within an already niche market. D&D players weren't that likely to purchase Pyramid when it was in print, assuming they could even find it, for example. When Dragon covered other TSR games, it broadened it's appeal (though I have no idea if it did anything for sales to have Marvel material in with the D&D stuff).</p><p></p><p>But if you eliminate Dungeon and Dragon, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any publication that has been around as long and remained as focused on it's original material. The sole exception would be White Dwarf, but they only survived by changing their content away from the RPG segment to focus more on Warhammer and 40K. Even the venerable Games magazine discontinued publication for a couple of years.</p><p></p><p>Apropos of nothing, I think it speaks highly of people that Paizo is considered the proper caretakers of the magazines (based, naturally on years of them doing such a good job), when just a few years ago, the transition TO them was considered impending doom for both publications. The irony is a little funny, in hindsight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 3510338, member: 151"] Nice to hear from you, Charles. I'm not an industry insider, but speaking as a consumer, I don't even KNOW these magazines, so I think that fact in and of itself says something. Granted, I was not a D&D player at that time, but I [i]was[/i] an active gamer, and while I might have vaguely glanced at these on the shelf, I don't recall ever picking up either one. For that matter, during the pre-d20 era, I stopped getting either Dungeon OR Dragon, until I returned with 3e. Like many others, I completely skipped the 2e era (and this may explain my lack of familiarity with them). RPG magazines would, I expect, be hard to sell because you're catering to such a diverse and segmented audience within an already niche market. D&D players weren't that likely to purchase Pyramid when it was in print, assuming they could even find it, for example. When Dragon covered other TSR games, it broadened it's appeal (though I have no idea if it did anything for sales to have Marvel material in with the D&D stuff). But if you eliminate Dungeon and Dragon, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any publication that has been around as long and remained as focused on it's original material. The sole exception would be White Dwarf, but they only survived by changing their content away from the RPG segment to focus more on Warhammer and 40K. Even the venerable Games magazine discontinued publication for a couple of years. Apropos of nothing, I think it speaks highly of people that Paizo is considered the proper caretakers of the magazines (based, naturally on years of them doing such a good job), when just a few years ago, the transition TO them was considered impending doom for both publications. The irony is a little funny, in hindsight. [/QUOTE]
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