Looking for a huge sized lizard

Oryan77 said:
My current adventure has a big caravan that's being pulled by 2 huge sized lizards. Is there any similar type of creature in any of the WotC books that I can use for the stats?

I will tell you a little secret... you don't actually need stats for everything. :D

What are those lizards going to do? Pull a big caravan. Ok, they can do that.
That's really all you need to know (and how they look like).

Bye
Thanee
 

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I meant I woulda expected it to be stronger, and have a slightly higher CR as such. Being such a big croc, I'd have expected an even nastier bite and all. Crocs have the strongest jaws in the animal kingdom for crushing things when they bite, IIRC. Well, there may be some sharks with stronger bites, but I don't recall, I know crocs are pretty well up there in the 'obscenely strong bite' department.
 

Arkhandus said:
I know crocs are pretty well up there in the 'obscenely strong bite' department.
3.5 T-rex only does 2.5 more average damage on a bite. CR9 Dire sharks do notably less damage. Dragons don't get comparable bites for 7 or 8 more CR points. Hell, only the obscenely high damage on the giant stag beetle's bite beats out the croc at that CR.
 

Thanee said:
I will tell you a little secret... you don't actually need stats for everything. :D

What are those lizards going to do? Pull a big caravan. Ok, they can do that.
That's really all you need to know (and how they look like).

Bye
Thanee
If the caravan is being driven by an enemy, then the PCs might want to kill the lizards. Or steal them...
 

Thanee said:
I will tell you a little secret... you don't actually need stats for everything. :D
But I like to stat out everything. In fact, my next post was going to be about finding stats on the Horseflies that eat the bacteria off of the lizards hides :p

Kwitchit said:
If the caravan is being driven by an enemy, then the PCs might want to kill the lizards. Or steal them...
You must have adventured with my players before :uhoh:

I planned to have the lizards make a bite attack if the PCs came to close to their mouths when they attack the caravan party. And I just want to be prepared in case the PCs decide to keep the lizards or kill them.

I think I'll go with the Giant Croc stats that frankthedm posted. Thanks everyone :)
 

Oryan77 said:
You must have adventured with my players before :uhoh:
The mass-murder and the packrat are 2 of the most common player types. Killing or taking the enemy's beasts of burden is an extreme example of this, but isn't too rare...

The question is, are the lizards monsters (in which case you kill them and take their stuff) or someone's stuff (in which case you take them)?
 

Oryan77 said:
I think I'll go with the Giant Croc stats that frankthedm posted. Thanks everyone :)
I dropped the swim
Gave it a climb speed since that is put on a lot of fantasy burden-lizards
Made the attacks non primary {-5 to hit, only 1/2 str bonus]
Removed Improved grab
Reduced the CR by a point
 

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