looking for magic less bard class variant

[victor012]

I looking for variant of bard class without any spell any advice or option are welcome

 

[concerro]

I looking for variant of bard class without any spell any advice or option are welcome

The only thing I know that might fit is the 3.5 factotum. They do get to cast a small number of spells as SLA's but you can ignore those. I will tell you that it sucks in combat for the most part. There is a guide floating around on the internet for it though.

 

[1Mac]

I have one that's totally unplaytested that I've been meaning to post. Nothing fancy; just lots of extra bardic performances in place of spells.

I don't know of any that are professionally produced.

 

[Glade Riven]

A rogue with ranks in perform or profession: bard would work as an alternative, if you wanted to remove magic (even magical music) altogether.

Another quick-and-dirty idea is to take the bard class and replace the spells and spell progression with rogue talents, which would be gained every other level like a rogue. The exception would be sneak attack related talents, unless the character has Sneak Attack from multiclassing. Advanced Talents can be take after level 10. Actually, I think this might work out well, since the Bard's spells are usually utilitarian.

Not sure about how balanced it is, though.

 

[VanceMadrox]

The Scholar from A Fist Full of Denarii would fit the bill.

 

[slwoyach]

Replace every caster level with a bonus feat from a class-appropriate list. I do this with rangers in my campaign (I hate spellcasting rangers!).

 

[Tinker Gnome]

The Master class from the War of the Lance 3.5 sourcebook could work.

 

[NMC]

If you have access to the book Skull & Bones (a sourcebook for Caribbean piracy), I'd recommend the Shantyman class.

-Nate

 

[GreyLord]

You probably could add a few things to it to make it equal to the rest of pathfinder, but there is a Magic-less Bard in Castles And Crusades which I use as compatible with all forms of D&D (and I suppose Pathfinder).

He has no Magic, but still has songs which are basically like the other Bards song abilities. He also has a better HP die, and advances in combat ability very similarly to warrior classes.