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Looking to get a new gaming pc

warren123

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ok...so ive been looking around for a new pc...a gaming one...and ive found 2 so far that i like...which ill link to....but i figure why not ask for some other peoples opinions...now i want a cool looking pc....looks matter...with a NICE graphics card...no integrated or shared crap....price range...up to $2500...

heres the 2 ive found

Alienware New Area-51 Desktop

Dell XPS 630 Desktop
 

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Just an F.Y.I.; Dell bought Alienware, so you are going to be dealing with the same company no matter which one you go with between these two.

My own personal experiences with Dell have been less than stellar. i wold suggest that you check the back of some of the gaming mags out there. You can find quite a few companies selling sharp looking gaming towers all well under $2500. You will get more for your money that way.

Good hunting.
 

If you want to blow the money, go ahead, you should get a state of the art machine for that amount. :)

But for half as much or less you will get one, that can run everything just fine, too; and have plenty left to save up or whatnot. ;)

I would get a custom-made computer with a high-end mainboard (that supports the newest QuadCores for later upgrades), a fast DualCore CPU, 2x2GB DDR2 800-1066MHz RAM (which depends on CPU), and a GF8800GTS-1024MB. Then the usual stuff, like 2x 500GB SATAII HDD, DVD-RW/BluRay-Drive, etc. Buy a nice-looking tower (there are plenty out there from various companies, like Coolermaster, Thermaltake and so on) and you should be set.

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goto http://www.newegg.com/ and build your own....waaaay cheaper.

if you're not familiar with building pc's, then do some searching on the net for good forums to discuss it and learn. Its a great experience building your first pc and saves so much money. Plus makes upgrades way easier and you know more about your machine (invaluable).

Maybe start here for learning to build your own rig: http://www.eggxpert.com/

Trust me, its not that hard. Just learn which pieces go with which other pieces. Not including monitor, you can build yourself a GREAT gaming rig for under a $1,000. For $1500 you could get one to run crysis 1920x1200 on ultra highest (or whatev its called).
 

vectner said:
Just an F.Y.I.; Dell bought Alienware, so you are going to be dealing with the same company no matter which one you go with between these two.

My own personal experiences with Dell have been less than stellar. i wold suggest that you check the back of some of the gaming mags out there. You can find quite a few companies selling sharp looking gaming towers all well under $2500. You will get more for your money that way.
To offer a counterpoint: As an owner of an Alienware I have been very pleased with their service. They are owned by Dell but the service centers and completely different facilities.

That said, you do pay a premium for the Alienware name compared to building your own. Still, I was sick of building my own so I went with an Alienware. :)

Also, you can drop the Blu-Ray drive and save a few bucks.
 

I personally build my own systems because I can and it is far cheaper. Plus you get exactly what you want without a lot of crap tacked on. Unfortunately there is no warranty so if something breaks I have to fix it myself. I will try to offer some advice however in purchasing a canned system from Dell or Alienware.

The difference between Dell and Alienware are pretty slim these days. The biggest differences is in Support (Alienwares is still in-house I believe) and in parts used. Most parts that Alienware uses is the same that you could purchase in a store anywhere. This is what makes them far superior to Dell. Dell parts are manufactured to Dell specifications for a lot of components. This makes upgrading and repairing a Dell much more difficult, forcing you to go with Dell for this. Dell isn’t as bad at this as say Gateway, Compaq or HP are.

My biggest problem with Alienware is the fact that you are paying $500-$1000 for the name. Their computers are seriously over priced for what you get.

These are some things I would watch out for with a gaming rig:

1) Which brand of video card do you want to go with? ATI or NVIDIA? This is a key question you need to answer right from the start. Honestly there isn’t much difference between the two unless you want to get down to the nth in frames per second. ATI has been doing some weird things with their drivers lately so be careful. NVIDIA is still the leader in my opinion.

2) This leads into #2. Processor type and motherboard chipset. Which do you want; an INTEL Processor or an AMD processor? Again, this is all personal preference. INTEL is good at multitasking while AMD is just a good solid performer. Once you decide then its chipset type. If you are going to go INTEL I would recommend that you go with an INTEL chipset motherboard. If you go AMD you have 3 major choices for chipsets; ATI, NVIDIA and VIA. VIA is a general all purpose chipset that is fairly decent. Drivers are kept up to date and are easy to maintain. ATI and NVIDIA chipsets are specialized and are geared more to a gamers needs. This is where it ties in with video card choice. If you go with an ATI video card then you can go with an INTEL or ATI chipset motherboard. If you decide to go NVIDIA then I would recommend that you use a NVIDIA chipset motherboard. Even though I recommended before to go with an INTEL chipset with INTEL processors NVIDIA does make an INTEL chipset as well so you can do both. The key is to never cross-platform.... I can’t stress this enough... don’t put an ATI card on an NVIDIA chipset motherboard and vice versa. INTEL and VIA and pretty generic and you can go with either or in my opinion.

3) Make sure your motherboard does not have onboard video. Even though you might get an actual video card, the onboard video device does not always shut off and will cause problems conflicting with your component video card.

4) 750-1000Ghz WATT Power Supply minimum.

5) 2-4gigs of RAM minimum. I would recommend 4gigs or more for upcoming gaming needs.


That’s the basics. If I think of anything else I'll post it.
 

YourSwordIsMine said:
4) 750-1000Ghz WATT Power Supply minimum.


I'd disagree on this point. It will depend on what you're running, of course, but a 500W PSU is more than enough power for typical gaming rig, even one running a high-end video card like the GTX. If you're running SLI, you'll want closer to 600W. Mainly you're looking for good voltage on the +12v rails, not a big total wattage number.

I found this calculator pretty handy:

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
 

YourSwordIsMine said:
2) This leads into #2. Processor type and motherboard chipset. Which do you want; an INTEL Processor or an AMD processor? Again, this is all personal preference. INTEL is good at multitasking while AMD is just a good solid performer.

You do realize this isn't P4 vs. late-model Athlon XP/early-model Athlon 64, right? Intel's chips are better at virtually all desktop tasks except in the extreme value segment (and even there, overclockers would argue for Intel).

YourSwordIsMine said:
Once you decide then its chipset type. If you are going to go INTEL I would recommend that you go with an INTEL chipset motherboard. If you go AMD you have 3 major choices for chipsets; ATI, NVIDIA and VIA.

Err... Via seems to have given up on the general-purpose chipset market. It's all AMD (AMD has phased out the ATi brand in the chipset space since acquiring AMD) and nVidia on the AMD CPU-side, and Intel and nVidia on the Intel-CPU side. And there are no serious problems with an ATi graphics card and an nVidia chipset motherboard, or vis versa, in a single-graphics card setup (and SLI and CrossFire are terrible value propositions).

With an Intel CPU, you use an Intel chipset motherboard unless you want to do SLI (which, unless someoene else is paying or tinkering with PCs is your expensive hobby, you don't want to do). With an AMD CPU, you probably end up with an nVidia chipset unless you want to do CrossFire (and, as with SLI, you probably don't).
 

Here's a build for you...get two GPU's (SLI) and two of the RAM sticks listed and total price is less than $1500 plus s/h. All you need is a monitor...you can find a solid 24" LCD (1920x1200) for $400. If you go with one GPU and a cheaper mobo, you can get the price under $1k. You could even skimp on the case and drop another $50-$75. And cannibalize parts from existing PC to save $$. Did I mention the PSU is less than 20dB at 650W.

The mobo should allow for easy cpu upgrade in a few years, and additional 4GB of RAM expansion. With those upgrades, the mobo should last about 5-6 years before needing to do a whole replace. The other components (case, psu, hdd) shouldn't need replacement for a good while. If anyone has suggestions on this build, please post below.

<my build>

Case: Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811133021

PSU: SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817151028

MoBo: EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813188024

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115017

2x RAM: G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5S-2GBPQ - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820231121

2x GPU: EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130318

HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822136218

</my build>
 

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