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<blockquote data-quote="Marion Poliquin" data-source="post: 13231" data-attributes="member: 1170"><p>In Lord of the Iron Fortress (15th level adventure), there is a new monster (whose name escapes me at the moment) that has an ability called Sundering Bite. The creature gets +4 to its opposed roll to attack the weapon, shield or item. If it hits, it deals double damage (4d6 + 14*) to the object.</p><p></p><p>Okay, here's the thing.</p><p></p><p>The rules clearly state that if an item has plusses, it has to be it with something that has as many plusses in order to be able to be damaged. </p><p></p><p>The monster does not have plusses, so according to the rules it should not even be able to dent a +1 or better item. </p><p></p><p>But wait, it does, however, have Damage Reduction 20*/+4. Following me ?</p><p></p><p>The rules for Damage Reduction state that monsters can ignore the Damage Reduction of other monsters if that DR (+1, +2, +3, etc.) is less than or equal to their own.</p><p></p><p>My question is : would you say that this would the new monster (DR +4) to damage items +4 or less ?</p><p></p><p><strong>If yes :</strong> wouldn't you say it' a bit unfair for a monster meant as a frequent encounter in an adventure to be able to snap the character's precious items like toothpicks ? (unless they are +5, which is still rare at level 15). Plus, once the monsters have destroyedd all the character's precious equipment, it becomes very hard to defeat the monsters.</p><p></p><p> <strong>If no :</strong> well, it means that the ability just isn't very useful against high-level characters, so why even give it to the monster since it was made specifically to be thrown at 15th level characters ?</p><p></p><p>So, which is it ? Is the ability too good to be true or too bad to be true.</p><p></p><p>*edited to correct a few facts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marion Poliquin, post: 13231, member: 1170"] In Lord of the Iron Fortress (15th level adventure), there is a new monster (whose name escapes me at the moment) that has an ability called Sundering Bite. The creature gets +4 to its opposed roll to attack the weapon, shield or item. If it hits, it deals double damage (4d6 + 14*) to the object. Okay, here's the thing. The rules clearly state that if an item has plusses, it has to be it with something that has as many plusses in order to be able to be damaged. The monster does not have plusses, so according to the rules it should not even be able to dent a +1 or better item. But wait, it does, however, have Damage Reduction 20*/+4. Following me ? The rules for Damage Reduction state that monsters can ignore the Damage Reduction of other monsters if that DR (+1, +2, +3, etc.) is less than or equal to their own. My question is : would you say that this would the new monster (DR +4) to damage items +4 or less ? [B]If yes :[/B] wouldn't you say it' a bit unfair for a monster meant as a frequent encounter in an adventure to be able to snap the character's precious items like toothpicks ? (unless they are +5, which is still rare at level 15). Plus, once the monsters have destroyedd all the character's precious equipment, it becomes very hard to defeat the monsters. [B]If no :[/B] well, it means that the ability just isn't very useful against high-level characters, so why even give it to the monster since it was made specifically to be thrown at 15th level characters ? So, which is it ? Is the ability too good to be true or too bad to be true. *edited to correct a few facts. [/QUOTE]
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