Lost 2/23/07 Season Finale w/ spoilers

Welverin said:
I was thinking more of us, hadn't really consider the gullible isle suckers.


I see. :D I suppose now that the Lostaways are typically skeptical, if they do not question something fiercely, the audience is less likely to do so, as well. Personally, I have thought she was an Other from the start but now I wonder if she isn't part of some other organization, like a Dharma spy come to check on things.
 

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Maybe Penny's dad is part of the Dharma Initiative.

Anybody know when Ben murdered all the Dharma people? Was it before or after Desmond washed up on the island in 2001?

Either way, when Ben & co. killed off Dharma, I think they had a few other Dharma people who turned their coat and/or cut deals to survive -- among them, Mikhail & Clancy Brown's character. Clancy was stationed at the hatch (Ben and his dad went there to drop off the beer), and allowed to stay, because the button has to be pressed. Desmond was either already there (though why was Clancy lying to him before the attack?), or washes up later, and they just lie to him to keep him there without having to kill him.

Mikhail gets left at the satellite uplink, either to keep feeding Dharma fake info ("Yeah, everything's fine here. We're all fine. How are you?" Except they're better liars than Han), or to talk to some allies (a faction amongst the Initiative?). They certainly still have sources in the outside world; witness the videotape & files on the survivors.

Then the button doesn't get pressed, and the Anomaly starts to go off, bringing down 815 before the override is activated. Lucky for Ben, what with his spinal problems and all.

Then the button doesn't get pressed at all, and the Anomaly really goes off. Now Dharma totally loses contact with the island, and they begin searching for the island. (Or, if Dharma wasn't being strung along by Ben & co., now they suddenly have a fix on the island's general location.) Except they need a constant beacon from the island to really pinpoint it, and Ben is either jamming whatever beacon was there, or the anomaly blew it away. So they can't pinpoint the island, though they are in the neighborhood.

One of their pilots stumbles into the island, and manages to survive. She has a picture of Desmond & Penny -- because Dharma knows he was on the island, ? Maybe Penny's dad is part of the Initiative, and gave 'em the picture. Maybe she was expected to crash, due to the island's effects; ergo the slightly unusual (AFAIK) sight of a helicopter pilot with a parachute.
 

coyote6 said:
Maybe Penny's dad is part of the Dharma Initiative.

Anybody know when Ben murdered all the Dharma people? Was it before or after Desmond washed up on the island in 2001?

Ben killed off the Dharma people way before Desmond washed up on shore. IIRC he was turning twenty something that day
 


Taelorn76 said:
Ben killed off the Dharma people way before Desmond washed up on shore. IIRC he was turning twenty something that day

I thought Ben said, near the end when he was talking to Jack, "not too long ago, " I killed the Darma people. I thought he meant maybe a couple of years before.
 

Gab said:
I thought Ben said, near the end when he was talking to Jack, "not too long ago, " I killed the Darma people. I thought he meant maybe a couple of years before.
At least long enough for a "Work Man" To decay to a dried out skeleton.
 

Y'know, it just occurred to me...

Charlie still might be alive. Not because he's some super-swimmer or he can dislocate his shoulders at will or anything, but simply because Desmond lived in the face of certain death while destroying one of the stations too. He comes back "from the dead" or whatever happens to people who turn things off in a permanent fashion on the island, and he can see Desmond dying, or maybe he sees the future for everyone, and given his history with Locke he's in a position for some sort of conversation of ye mystic-ish Losties with him.

Until I find out Dominic Monaghan's been arrested for drunk driving I think it's possible he's coming back with Desmond's mojo.
 

I wonder if there is a coherant timeline somewhere, with dates for the arrival of the Dharma people, the "incident," the arrival of Roussiou's boat, the death of the Dharma people, etc.

For that matter, who still don't know what the incident was or why the Others left the Swan Station alone.

I bet you a bucket of beach sand Charlie is well and truely dead. It was his destiny to die a stupid death. Like Kara Thrace. At least she came back. But Charlie won't.
 


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