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TwistedBishop said:
No, he was part of the book club that we see meet in the opening. One of the members there, when complaining about the book selection for that week, says: "I can see why Ben isn't here. Sorry Juliette, I know the host picks the book, but he wouldn't read this thing in the damn bathroom."

I forgot about that reference.


As for Ethan being at Juliette's I thought of him as a handy man more than anything.
 

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TwistedBishop said:
No, he was part of the book club that we see meet in the opening. One of the members there, when complaining about the book selection for that week, says: "I can see why Ben isn't here. Sorry Juliette, I know the host picks the book, but he wouldn't read this thing in the damn bathroom."

I gathered that he used to be a part of the book club, but from his comments, it seemed clear (to me) that he hadn't been invited by Juliette, the hostess. If he had chosen not to be present, then why would he make a comment about being out of the book club?

As for the comment about "I can see why [he] isn't here," if Juliette hadn't invited Ben, and they were having difficulties between them, she probably wouldn't let anyone else know, and it would be an easy assumption by the others that Ben had chosen not to be present on that day.

His comment doesn't make sense any other way.
 

Cthulhudrew said:
I gathered that he used to be a part of the book club, but from his comments, it seemed clear (to me) that he hadn't been invited by Juliette, the hostess.

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His comment doesn't make sense any other way.

It came off to me as "looks like I'm about to get very busy with this plane crash hassle". If she had really told him not to come to the meeting, why bring it up then? They would have already spoken about it. If she had simply not told him about it, the issue would have come up before then as well, since a meeting like tha is planned in advance.
 

Taelorn76 said:
No they are on the same island. When Benry ( for you Celt :) ) sent Goodwin and Ethan out to the crash sites they mentioned something about getting there in an hour. Also remember when Anna Lucia called out Goodwin she stated that he came out of the jungle dry

Which would not make any sense. If you look at the pic of where the village is in relation to the tail section, it would take them longer than an hour to get to, it is so far away. Remember, they are going through 95% jungle/forest/brush.

On the other hand, let's say it did take an hour. This is inconsistant from when we first see Ethan. We first see him emerge from the jungle as the tailies (I think Anna Lucia specifically) is just emerging from the water. Do you think it took them 1 whole hour to get from the water to the beach? I think it would have taken a lot less time than 1 hour to do that. If it took an hour, they probably wouldn't have drowned. Doesn't make sense.
 

TwistedBishop said:
If she had simply not told him about it, the issue would have come up before then as well, since a meeting like tha is planned in advance.

Or she could have invited everyone else and not him.

Recall the situation- everyone comes outside because of the shaking and the noise, Ben sees Juliette, looks meaningfully at the book she is holding, realizes she held the book club meeting without inviting him, and makes his comment.
 


Oh yeah, how do they have information on Jack's entire life??? Current theories I have heard:

1) They drugged Jack with a truth serum and asked all these questions in advance.

2) Walt has some sort of psychic abilities, and they gained all the info from Walt. Remember at the end of Season 2 when they let Walt go, Henry makes a comment like (paraphrasing) "We got more from Walt than we ever expected" or something like that. This is my current theory :)

The other thing, when Julliete asks Jack what he wants to know about his wife, Jack asks "Is she happy" and she replies "Yes". How would she know this? Some people think they are keeping tabs on her. My theory is simply that they have no idea and are full of BS and she only told Jack "Yes" because she felt that is what he wanted to hear.
 

The book club; my feeling is that Julliete and Benry had a relationship that fell apart, simple as that, they still have to work together but socialize is a bit much.

As far as the information on Jack, again simple, they have contact with the outside world. They would not have to drug him, everything about him would be on the news and internet soon after the plane went missing.

The biggest question that I would like to see answered, why them? Jack, yes, he was the leader. Kate maybe to control Jack. Sawyer is trouble. Sure they create a void with the other lostaways but one that Locke, Syhid, or Hugo, could fill. Only thing I can think would be their skill sets.
 

RigaMortus2 said:
1) They drugged Jack with a truth serum and asked all these questions in advance.

2) Walt has some sort of psychic abilities, and they gained all the info from Walt. Remember at the end of Season 2 when they let Walt go, Henry makes a comment like (paraphrasing) "We got more from Walt than we ever expected" or something like that. This is my current theory :)

Assuming one believes that they knew his wife was happy, that was info Jack didn't know so Walt couldn't have known either.
 

RigaMortus2 said:
I think it would have taken a lot less time than 1 hour to do that...

I took it that Goodwin was huffing it on foot through trailless jungle over some distance. So, yeah, it would have taken at least an hour to get there.

The Others do not give a d**n about the Lostaways. Under the leadership of Benry, they just run them like a herd of sheep.

I do have an issues with the show. The level of power Benry possesses and uses seems inconsistant. I have trouble believing Juliette could just dump him from the book club without reprisal.

How does he maintain the to-the-death loyalty of the Others without some negitive reenforcement?
 

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