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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 7788208" data-attributes="member: 53980">That isn't entirely accurate. You're not accounting for MAP. A 1st level fighter probably has around a +9 bonus to hit (+4 strength, +4 expert proficiency, +1 level).A 1st level creature appears to have around a 17 AC (admittedly, this is based on a brief perusal of the Beastiary, which I just picked up today).As such, the fighter has a 65% chance to hit with the first attack, 40% on the second attack, and a 15% chance on the third attack. That assumes that he doesn't need to Stride or Raise Shield. Admittedly, there are other possible factors that I've left off for the sake of simplicity, such as use of an Agile weapon.You've suggested that Burning Hands can hit 3 creatures, which is a reasonable assumption IMO. However, it's important to note that those 3 attacks do not suffer the MAP penalty. The wizard can use this 3-4 times a day. That's not bad.I'll grant you that wizards aren't going to be dealing more damage over the course of the day than melee classes, but I don't think the difference is unreasonable, even before without considering the wizard's utility.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 7788208, member: 53980"] That isn't entirely accurate. You're not accounting for MAP. A 1st level fighter probably has around a +9 bonus to hit (+4 strength, +4 expert proficiency, +1 level). A 1st level creature appears to have around a 17 AC (admittedly, this is based on a brief perusal of the Beastiary, which I just picked up today). As such, the fighter has a 65% chance to hit with the first attack, 40% on the second attack, and a 15% chance on the third attack. That assumes that he doesn't need to Stride or Raise Shield. Admittedly, there are other possible factors that I've left off for the sake of simplicity, such as use of an Agile weapon. You've suggested that Burning Hands can hit 3 creatures, which is a reasonable assumption IMO. However, it's important to note that those 3 attacks do not suffer the MAP penalty. The wizard can use this 3-4 times a day. That's not bad. I'll grant you that wizards aren't going to be dealing more damage over the course of the day than melee classes, but I don't think the difference is unreasonable, even before without considering the wizard's utility. [/QUOTE]

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