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<blockquote data-quote="perrinmiller" data-source="post: 6289039" data-attributes="member: 88649"><p><span style="color: #00ff00"><em><strong>~ Day 4 16:37 - Kingsholm: Coronet & Cabbage Inn ~</strong></em></span></p><p></p><p><img src="http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae47/perrinmiller/Scourge of the Howling Horde/BeardedMan.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> <img src="http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae47/perrinmiller/Unlimited%20RPGs/SergeantPhelps_zpsf827541e.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>Ian was more reasonable than Gran, but he gave a stern look at Jonas as he departed. He looked at Mystie, the lone adventurer standing before them.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: cyan">“Lass, do you think we should loan you 300 gold coins because you cannot afford to pay Banjatha for her time and supplies? I don’t have 300 gold coins sitting around either since I am an innkeeper not a money lender.”</span></p><p> <span style="color: cyan"></span></p><p><span style="color: cyan">“We are not contracting or hiring you all for anything. We offered a reward, if you cannot succeed then, so be it. But you may not deface or destroy our mausoleum like vandals.”</span></p><p> </p><p>Gran took it one step further and remarked, <span style="color: cyan">“Bah, I call it like I be seein’ it, Ian. Dis be a fookin’ shakedown. They juss donna wanna pay Banjatha. I be da moneylender, but they be a risky investment an’ dun pissed me off.”</span></p><p> <span style="color: cyan"></span></p><p><span style="color: cyan">“So they can get da hell outa o’ town if they donna wanna help. Den we can be sendin’ word ta Venza for sum real heroes instead.”</span></p><p> <span style="color: cyan"></span></p><p><span style="color: cyan">“I’m gonna go find Mia ta round up da Sentinels juss in case.”</span> The dwarf stomped out of the inn mumbling about how he knew it was a bad idea to involve strangers in the first place.</p><p> </p><p>Ian looked at the gnome lass to see if she had something nicer to say.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=Combat Information]</p><p><u>Party Stats:</u></p><p>[code]Qalabash: 20/20 HP remaining; </p><p>Mirra: 13/16 HP remaining; </p><p>Mystie: 23/23 HP remaining; </p><p>->Bubba: 16/16 HP remaining; </p><p>Jonas: 15/19 HP remaining; (4 damage NL); Poisoned 3 dex dmg</p><p></p><p>Spells Cast: </p><p>Abilities Used: </p><p> Qalabash: AP 2/4, Spells 1st 1/3</p><p> Mirra: Bombs 5/7, Extracts 1/3, Intel Mutagen 0/1</p><p> Mystie: Misfortune, Ch Energy 5/5, SLAs 0/3, Spells 1st 0/6, Bard Perf 3/8</p><p> Jonas: Jdgmt 0/1, Spells 1st 0/2</p><p>Conditions in effect:</p><p>[/code][/sblock] [sblock=GM Note]Mowgli, your OOC analogy is wrong. In your terms, you are being asked to spend $300 on supplies for an expected $1000 return to fix their roof. Yet, after starting the project you feel it reasonable to ask the home owner paying you for a loan to buy the supplies (which the contractor should already have) while telling the homeowner you cannot afford it (when you can). Do you really think you can go ask the home owner for a loan of $300 after you started the job? You could certainly negotiate that into the contract, but that would require a Diplomacy Check (something you never tried). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p> </p><p>The problem is that you did not make a reasonable request the way you presented it. Bottom line, it was a petty request when you clearly could afford the cost to pay for the materials of the scrolls. </p><p> </p><p>They are not contracting you for services, but giving a reward <u>only</u> if you succeed. You are assuming financial risk, not them. If you fail or skip town, they pay nothing. You succeed, they have to go take up a collection to reward you. So you are demanding they pay Banjantha upfront based on the chance of your anticipated success. Pretty much extortion since you are threatening destruction of their property if they don't.</p><p> </p><p>At this point, if you break down the mausoleum door, it would be vandalism and no different than if you looted the crypt, since you have revealed to them it is not necessary to break it. In that event you will not receive any reward at all and the entire town will be unfriendly to hostile as word spreads. Gran is the only one unfriendly at the moment, so you can definitely make it worse and lose access to purchase arcane supplies or divine healing from other townspeople.[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="perrinmiller, post: 6289039, member: 88649"] [COLOR=#00ff00][I][B]~ Day 4 16:37 - Kingsholm: Coronet & Cabbage Inn ~[/B][/I][/COLOR] [IMG]http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae47/perrinmiller/Scourge of the Howling Horde/BeardedMan.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae47/perrinmiller/Unlimited%20RPGs/SergeantPhelps_zpsf827541e.jpg[/IMG] Ian was more reasonable than Gran, but he gave a stern look at Jonas as he departed. He looked at Mystie, the lone adventurer standing before them. [COLOR=cyan]“Lass, do you think we should loan you 300 gold coins because you cannot afford to pay Banjatha for her time and supplies? I don’t have 300 gold coins sitting around either since I am an innkeeper not a money lender.” “We are not contracting or hiring you all for anything. We offered a reward, if you cannot succeed then, so be it. But you may not deface or destroy our mausoleum like vandals.”[/COLOR] Gran took it one step further and remarked, [COLOR=cyan]“Bah, I call it like I be seein’ it, Ian. Dis be a fookin’ shakedown. They juss donna wanna pay Banjatha. I be da moneylender, but they be a risky investment an’ dun pissed me off.” “So they can get da hell outa o’ town if they donna wanna help. Den we can be sendin’ word ta Venza for sum real heroes instead.” “I’m gonna go find Mia ta round up da Sentinels juss in case.”[/COLOR] The dwarf stomped out of the inn mumbling about how he knew it was a bad idea to involve strangers in the first place. Ian looked at the gnome lass to see if she had something nicer to say. [sblock=Combat Information] [U]Party Stats:[/U] [code]Qalabash: 20/20 HP remaining; Mirra: 13/16 HP remaining; Mystie: 23/23 HP remaining; ->Bubba: 16/16 HP remaining; Jonas: 15/19 HP remaining; (4 damage NL); Poisoned 3 dex dmg Spells Cast: Abilities Used: Qalabash: AP 2/4, Spells 1st 1/3 Mirra: Bombs 5/7, Extracts 1/3, Intel Mutagen 0/1 Mystie: Misfortune, Ch Energy 5/5, SLAs 0/3, Spells 1st 0/6, Bard Perf 3/8 Jonas: Jdgmt 0/1, Spells 1st 0/2 Conditions in effect: [/code][/sblock] [sblock=GM Note]Mowgli, your OOC analogy is wrong. In your terms, you are being asked to spend $300 on supplies for an expected $1000 return to fix their roof. Yet, after starting the project you feel it reasonable to ask the home owner paying you for a loan to buy the supplies (which the contractor should already have) while telling the homeowner you cannot afford it (when you can). Do you really think you can go ask the home owner for a loan of $300 after you started the job? You could certainly negotiate that into the contract, but that would require a Diplomacy Check (something you never tried). ;) The problem is that you did not make a reasonable request the way you presented it. Bottom line, it was a petty request when you clearly could afford the cost to pay for the materials of the scrolls. They are not contracting you for services, but giving a reward [U]only[/U] if you succeed. You are assuming financial risk, not them. If you fail or skip town, they pay nothing. You succeed, they have to go take up a collection to reward you. So you are demanding they pay Banjantha upfront based on the chance of your anticipated success. Pretty much extortion since you are threatening destruction of their property if they don't. At this point, if you break down the mausoleum door, it would be vandalism and no different than if you looted the crypt, since you have revealed to them it is not necessary to break it. In that event you will not receive any reward at all and the entire town will be unfriendly to hostile as word spreads. Gran is the only one unfriendly at the moment, so you can definitely make it worse and lose access to purchase arcane supplies or divine healing from other townspeople.[/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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