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<blockquote data-quote="Wayside" data-source="post: 2229609" data-attributes="member: 8394"><p>Well, I think the ratings system is a joke for the most part anyway. I know a lot of people are perfectly willing to raise their kids based on these sorts of approved gradations (on plenty of levels beyond movies as well), but they don't work for me. So if you're not being rhetorical, and really asking me "what's the point of the rating systems if we're not even going to use them?" my answer is "there is no point, get rid of them." I'll decide what my kids, when I have kids, see, and those ratings won't have anything to do with my decision. It's like Celan says: nobody bears witness for the witness.</p><p></p><p>Now, I'm not going to argue that anybody who doesn't take their kids to see RotS is <em>wrong</em>--they're your kids, do as you see fit. But unless they have already seen it and made that decision personally, I find it maybe a little lazy, and the possibility that the scene you described could keep kids out I find maybe a little historically anomalous, just in terms of how desperately we try to sanitize everything in our culture these days. But really for me the whole issue boils down to this: when I was 5, if RotS had come out, and if my parents had told me I was too young to see it--(they wouldn't have, my parents are lovely)--but if they had, I would've been pretty unhappy. That's all. And it isn't true that this scene "is definitely NOT a moment kids should be watching"; at best, you can say that YOU definitely don't want your kids to watch it. There isn't a fact of the matter either way.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, so your point, then, is that Lucas may be right, that people may not take their kids to see it? I've agreed with that possibility since the beginning. I don't think he <em>ought</em> to be right, just like LrdApoc doesn't think he <em>will</em> be right, but I accept the possibility.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps the most painstaking theory of art ever conceived.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wayside, post: 2229609, member: 8394"] Well, I think the ratings system is a joke for the most part anyway. I know a lot of people are perfectly willing to raise their kids based on these sorts of approved gradations (on plenty of levels beyond movies as well), but they don't work for me. So if you're not being rhetorical, and really asking me "what's the point of the rating systems if we're not even going to use them?" my answer is "there is no point, get rid of them." I'll decide what my kids, when I have kids, see, and those ratings won't have anything to do with my decision. It's like Celan says: nobody bears witness for the witness. Now, I'm not going to argue that anybody who doesn't take their kids to see RotS is [I]wrong[/I]--they're your kids, do as you see fit. But unless they have already seen it and made that decision personally, I find it maybe a little lazy, and the possibility that the scene you described could keep kids out I find maybe a little historically anomalous, just in terms of how desperately we try to sanitize everything in our culture these days. But really for me the whole issue boils down to this: when I was 5, if RotS had come out, and if my parents had told me I was too young to see it--(they wouldn't have, my parents are lovely)--but if they had, I would've been pretty unhappy. That's all. And it isn't true that this scene "is definitely NOT a moment kids should be watching"; at best, you can say that YOU definitely don't want your kids to watch it. There isn't a fact of the matter either way. Anyway, so your point, then, is that Lucas may be right, that people may not take their kids to see it? I've agreed with that possibility since the beginning. I don't think he [I]ought[/I] to be right, just like LrdApoc doesn't think he [I]will[/I] be right, but I accept the possibility. Perhaps the most painstaking theory of art ever conceived. [/QUOTE]
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