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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyHarmless42" data-source="post: 8819147" data-attributes="member: 6845520"><p>No. But as someone who is a Dragonlance fan who is dyametrically opposed to them our wants for the setting cannot co-exist by definition. They <em>want</em> everything I like about the setting to be ignored and undone. This is by sheer requirement for me to acknowledge their existence and make my viewpoint known because if they get what they want my favorite setting is destroyed. We are quite literally on opposite sides of an argument that has been going on for the better part of two decades now because what both sides want <em>cannot </em>fundamentally coexist, and your ignorance to the existence of this ongoing debate is not my or their fault. Welcome to the Dragonlance fandom, because you're going to see this topic get brought up a lot. It's the thorn to the rose of an otherwise great setting, albeit this does not forgive or excuse any sort of toxic behavior of any fandom.</p><p></p><p>What is actually more important and relevant is that I at any opportunity provide feedback to WoTC that fans of the Age of Mortals <em>do</em> exist, and this board we are aware is one of the places they do actually monitor for player feedback, the surveys and dnd beyond being another.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. This is <em>precisely</em> what the Age of Mortals is/was. The issue is a lot of people from the 70s and 80s parts of the fandom want it undone, compounded by the fact that Weis and Hickman have gone of record saying they weren't fans of the Age of Mortals themselves. Why else do you think they literally wrote a book that basically tries to do at least part this retcon (Dragons of Deceit?). As I've said in multiple threads, enjoy it as you all wish. I for one will choose to ignore anything DoD or onwards for my games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agree and could not have put it better myself, albeit I will point out for the sake of argument that with races in particular in certain settings like Eberron, Ravnica, or Theros they sort of intentionally leave it vague as to whether every race in the PHB or other expanded 5e material exits. They deliberately leave it up to the DM to decide if they want them allowed or sort of hint to DMs they can check out old source material for making judgements as they wish. I merely want Dragonlance to be treated the same and a true retcon to War of the Lance wouldn't allow this. I'm pointing this out because it's an objectively bad part of the setting that many older fans of the setting don't like to acknowledge or tell new people exposed to it. The point is Shadow of the Dragon Queen is going to have to do a whole heck of a lot more than have a small sidebar listing race/class options and rename a wizard order to "Mage" in order to square a lot of these issues, and given the recent release of SpellJammer you can forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical WotC is going to address any of this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MostlyHarmless42, post: 8819147, member: 6845520"] No. But as someone who is a Dragonlance fan who is dyametrically opposed to them our wants for the setting cannot co-exist by definition. They [I]want[/I] everything I like about the setting to be ignored and undone. This is by sheer requirement for me to acknowledge their existence and make my viewpoint known because if they get what they want my favorite setting is destroyed. We are quite literally on opposite sides of an argument that has been going on for the better part of two decades now because what both sides want [I]cannot [/I]fundamentally coexist, and your ignorance to the existence of this ongoing debate is not my or their fault. Welcome to the Dragonlance fandom, because you're going to see this topic get brought up a lot. It's the thorn to the rose of an otherwise great setting, albeit this does not forgive or excuse any sort of toxic behavior of any fandom. What is actually more important and relevant is that I at any opportunity provide feedback to WoTC that fans of the Age of Mortals [I]do[/I] exist, and this board we are aware is one of the places they do actually monitor for player feedback, the surveys and dnd beyond being another. Correct. This is [I]precisely[/I] what the Age of Mortals is/was. The issue is a lot of people from the 70s and 80s parts of the fandom want it undone, compounded by the fact that Weis and Hickman have gone of record saying they weren't fans of the Age of Mortals themselves. Why else do you think they literally wrote a book that basically tries to do at least part this retcon (Dragons of Deceit?). As I've said in multiple threads, enjoy it as you all wish. I for one will choose to ignore anything DoD or onwards for my games. Agree and could not have put it better myself, albeit I will point out for the sake of argument that with races in particular in certain settings like Eberron, Ravnica, or Theros they sort of intentionally leave it vague as to whether every race in the PHB or other expanded 5e material exits. They deliberately leave it up to the DM to decide if they want them allowed or sort of hint to DMs they can check out old source material for making judgements as they wish. I merely want Dragonlance to be treated the same and a true retcon to War of the Lance wouldn't allow this. I'm pointing this out because it's an objectively bad part of the setting that many older fans of the setting don't like to acknowledge or tell new people exposed to it. The point is Shadow of the Dragon Queen is going to have to do a whole heck of a lot more than have a small sidebar listing race/class options and rename a wizard order to "Mage" in order to square a lot of these issues, and given the recent release of SpellJammer you can forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical WotC is going to address any of this. [/QUOTE]
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