Macintosh unfriendly

[beta-ray]

Well I am a Mac user by choice..

I too have noticed that I get several errors. This only started to happen recently as the new format was adopted. I get a lot of java language errors.


I remember very slow load times when the last reformat happened too. Oh well. The price of living in a windows world.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Well I am a Mac user by choice..

Sorry about the rant. If it bothered you, I didn't mean to imply that PCs were superior in all respects. There are a number of things Macs do better, graphics being a big one. But for my field, they just don't make much sense, but people insist on using them because that's what they "grew up on" academically. It rubs my pragmatism the wrong way.

Anyway, if you're still around Quartermoon, add the java errors to the list o' bugs. I had almost forgotten about them. I still haven't heard back from vBulletin, myself. Maybe I'll send another message if I don't hear anything Monday.

 

[Femerus the Gnecro]

Sorry about the rant. If it bothered you, I didn't mean to imply that PCs were superior in all respects. There are a number of things Macs do better, graphics being a big one. But for my field, they just don't make much sense, but people insist on using them because that's what they "grew up on" academically. It rubs my pragmatism the wrong way.

Anyway, if you're still around Quartermoon, add the java errors to the list o' bugs. I had almost forgotten about them. I still haven't heard back from vBulletin, myself. Maybe I'll send another message if I don't hear anything Monday.

As another mac user, I'll accept your apology on behalf of us all

Seriously though, I prefer to have a two computer household, so I can game on my pc and do everything else on my mac.

-F

 

[Danzilla]

hi, my name is Dan and I’m MAC USER.....



and yes I do have the same problems with pages refreshing....at home and at work...

and I had the java error message popups happening quite a bit for a while...I think it was the news ticker and since I’ve turned it off I ahven’t had that problem...and insteresting sidenote to that was reading through some of the java error popups I noticed some decidedly porn sounding references and links...

not a prude or anything but it was popping up on my work computer and things like that always make me skittish...hard enough explaining the hobby/habit (hobbit?) I can’t even ignore while creating ads all day...

What’s that, why is there a dragon image in your ad...?

I thought it would sell spaghetti better...

Danzilla

 

[beta-ray]

BTW Canis... It didn't bother me... much

Again it's my choice.

 

[Zappo]

Netscape (Communicator 4.7) just crashes a lot, but I'm not sure if that's vBulletin or just Netscape (worst browser, EVER)

4.7 is no longer supported; the current version is 7.0. Because of this, the number of sites that won't work with 4.7 is constantly increasing, of course. Mozilla/Netscape 7 (they're basically the same) display the boards perfectly both on Windows and Linux; don't know about Mac, but I guess it should be the same.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Not to be argumentative, but...

1) Netscape 4.7 crashed every 4 minutes when it WAS supported.

2) I'm assuming Mozilla doesn't have all the Netscape brand crap attached to it, making it much more attractive to those of us who hate software bloat (also the reason I'm considering dumping IE).

3) ALL my browsers have always run fine under Windows and Linux, even ones that weren't designed for it, or are bloated beyond recognition. Only on Macs does it become a problem.

 

[Quartermoon]

You can see and I believe participate in my conversation with vBulletin support by going to this place:

http://www.vbulletin.com/contact/issue.php?issueid=21365&authcode=7ccea0ee

Also, by threads above (http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27808) I am thinking this problem is more widespread (and sneakily vague) that I first thought.

Interestingly enough, I occasionally have java errors/crashes myself, but never on this site! :/ But I always thought that was a browser version problem...if I ever get the tie to upgate Netscape, maybe it will go away.

 

[Kesh]

Not to be argumentative, but...

1) Netscape 4.7 crashed every 4 minutes when it WAS supported.

2) I'm assuming Mozilla doesn't have all the Netscape brand crap attached to it, making it much more attractive to those of us who hate software bloat (also the reason I'm considering dumping IE).

3) ALL my browsers have always run fine under Windows and Linux, even ones that weren't designed for it, or are bloated beyond recognition. Only on Macs does it become a problem.

For 1 & 2, Netscape has always been buggy, yes. Mozilla is slightly less bloated than Netscape, but not much.

One thing you'll find is that many websites use code that violates HTML standards. Netscape and IE understand the bad code, and should display it properly... but not always.

If you have a system that supports it, upgrade to MacOS 10.2 and you'll be much happier. There's a program called Chimera, which is essentially a slimmed-down verison of Mozilla. It's fast, stable (for a 0.5 beta!) and has no trouble whatsoever with ENWorld. Plus you get the stability of OS X and plenty of other nice abilites that OS 9 lacks.

If you can't get to OS X, then I suggest you at least upgrade to 9.2.2 and grab the latest Mozilla available for it. That'll be the best combination of stability and proper web features.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Having installed Mozilla on the Mac at work, I can tell anyone who's interested that it doesn't suffer any of the java and updating problems so far. Granted, it's only been 4 days, and a good chunk of that time the boards weren't available for testing purposes.

But still, it's a vast improvement over IE and Netscape.