Magic item granting blindsight?

[Pax]

Sithramir, I almost forgot ... you CAN still sneak up on someone with blindsight: blindsight doesn't "see" incorporeal beings. At all.

 

[Snipehunt]

So the bat "Sees" a nice, solid-object creature, surounded by the sonar scatter of what is, to it, a nonsolid obstruction. Rather like modern thermal-imaging systems can see people walking around on the other side of a wall; blindsight won'tlet you know if the Rogue is wearing shorts or long pants, but, it WILL let you know he's there.

Thermal Imaging can't "see" people walking behind walls - you only can tell that there is a heat source behind the wall, and not even that most of the time. Thermal imagers can't even see through glass, glass has it's own thermal signature. Interesting, huh?

Fortunately, blindsense isn't limited by what actually happens.

 

[Pax]

Thermal Imaging can't "see" people walking behind walls - you only can tell that there is a heat source behind the wall, and not even that most of the time. Thermal imagers can't even see through glass, glass has it's own thermal signature. Interesting, huh?

Um, dude ... yes, thermal imagers CAN see through walls and glass. The military-grade stuff, anyway. You won't see facial features, but, you will see arms/legs/head/center-of-mass. Heck, with the right ones -- meaning, sufficiently cutting-edge MilSpec gear -- you can see the (faint) outlines of furniture in rooms on the other side of modern walls.

Just 'cause you've only seen/played with the civvie stuff, doesn't mean that the best examples out there are similarly limited. ^_^