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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5246613" data-attributes="member: 2011">Attack powers do not require you to make an attack roll, but attacks do. Rain of Steel is an attack power, but it is not an attack. The new Magic Missile is an attack power, but not an attack. Dispel Magic is a utility power, but it is an attack.Just like attack types can be used for powers that are not attacks as well.The quote you have there discusses attack powers, not attacks.Page 269 discusses attacks in a few places. For example, "When you attack, you make an attack roll to determine whether your attack hits your target." or "All attacks follow the same basic process: 1. Choose the attack you’ll use. Each attack has an attack type. 2. Choose targets for the attack (page 272). Each target must be within range (page 273). Check whether you can see and target your enemies (page 273). 3. Make an attack roll (page 273).".This is pretty clear. If it's an attack, it has an attack roll. If it's an attack power, it may or may not have an attack roll. But, attacks are not attack powers. Think of a venn diagram. Some attack powers are attacks, some are not. Some utility powers are attacks, some are not. At least according to page 269 of the PHB.</blockquote>