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Message: <blockquote data-quote="deadman1204" data-source="post: 9406681" data-attributes="member: 7045949">In general, my issue is how they try to prevent a couple powerful CC spells from ending the fight. 3rd ed had an immunity list, just make the mob immune to charm, fear, and a few conditions, and away you go! That would work, the fight trivializing spells don't work. Banish and edge cases? Meh they don't win the fight anwyas, they just pause it.The basic design is flawed when you turn a character off and make them spend the fight trying to do something. Yes legendaries can be balanced from a dm/game aspect, but they are hot garbage from a player perspective because they punish the players that choose to be casters. You aren't allowed to have fun until you pay your dues (if the fight is still going by that point). the only fights where you are allowed to use your big abilities are the ones that don't matter. Thus why even have them? Melee attacks are what kills most bbeg's, should there be an aura that turns off all 2nd and additional attacks because damage trivializes all fights? That would feel terrible for the players of melee characters. This is no different for casters.</blockquote>