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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 3192703" data-attributes="member: 12037">That is a fairly complicated question, but I'm going to say "no"Speaking as someone who has actually played in an almost no magic game as a fighter up to 10th level (one +1 heavy flail, one +1 ring of protection), I can say with very much certainty that the relative power of the spellcasters remains higher than the power of the non-spellcasters in the extreme. My 10th level Fighter was on par wtih the 10th level druid's summons for any single combat even after the DM scaled them back a level (so for example a CR3 <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/direApe.htm" target="_blank">dire ape</a>). Beging generous, the 12th level party of 5 consisting of Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Wizard, and Cleric is probably something like this:Fighter Effective Level: 7Barbarian Effective Level: 8Rogue Effective Level: 6Wizard Effective Level: 10Cleric Effective Level: 10The unequipped 12th level fighter, barbarian, and rogue will barely affect the overall performance of their group versus the equipped 9th level party compared to the casters, and due to domination/charm effects might prove to simply be a hinderance. Overall, purely power wise, however, I think they come out fairly even if its a straight up charge in fight.However, if you take into considertation magical items like scrolls, wands, things that give better mobility, and the like, my bet would be on the 9th level guys just being able to out-resource the 12th level opponents into submission. They'll have more access to healing, be more likely to be able to fly (and thus stay completely out of reach), and have a far wider breadth of options available to them.</blockquote>

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