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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Morris" data-source="post: 1397752" data-attributes="member: 87">Both of those problems lie with Firebird.&nbsp; Note that according to it's own maker it is &quot;not complete&quot; and &quot;should not be used as your primary browser.&quot;Guys, none of the code on this site is my creation - it's vbulletin and it has been extensively tested over the last year to run on the largest gamut of browsers possible.&nbsp; Some of the worst of these glitches really need to be reported to customer service at vbulletin.com, not me.Incomplete browsers (i.e. Firebird), really old browsers (i.e. Netscape 4.0) and the like won't render these pages correctly.&nbsp; But I'm quite certain that the users of these browsers are already encountering similar problems with other sites - often for the same reasons.Vbulletin tries to insure that it sends a version of the page best suited to the browser you use by using a HTTP_USER_REQ call to determine your browser and OS (Reapersaurus used to have a signature file that used the same call to display the information to you in his sig until we killed HTML sig files - why I have no idea).&nbsp; Based on what your browser tells it the program returns the best setup it can.I am working when I can to fully implement some back areas of the code to allow for these problem browsers - code such as the no drop downs version of the navbar.&nbsp; However, my free time is very limited and I have *lot* to do and/or figure out how to do.&nbsp; Even when I do get around to it, I don't have a reliable way to test it because I don't have an older/incomplete browser on my system.&nbsp; It takes enough poking to make sure IE 6, NS 7, Opera 7 and Safari work properly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Michael Morris, post: 1397752, member: 87"] Both of those problems lie with Firebird. Note that according to it's own maker it is "not complete" and "should not be used as your primary browser." Guys, none of the code on this site is my creation - it's vbulletin and it has been extensively tested over the last year to run on the largest gamut of browsers possible. Some of the worst of these glitches really need to be reported to customer service at vbulletin.com, not me. Incomplete browsers (i.e. Firebird), really old browsers (i.e. Netscape 4.0) and the like won't render these pages correctly. But I'm quite certain that the users of these browsers are already encountering similar problems with other sites - often for the same reasons. Vbulletin tries to insure that it sends a version of the page best suited to the browser you use by using a HTTP_USER_REQ call to determine your browser and OS (Reapersaurus used to have a signature file that used the same call to display the information to you in his sig until we killed HTML sig files - why I have no idea). Based on what your browser tells it the program returns the best setup it can. I am working when I can to fully implement some back areas of the code to allow for these problem browsers - code such as the no drop downs version of the navbar. However, my free time is very limited and I have *lot* to do and/or figure out how to do. Even when I do get around to it, I don't have a reliable way to test it because I don't have an older/incomplete browser on my system. It takes enough poking to make sure IE 6, NS 7, Opera 7 and Safari work properly. [/QUOTE]

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