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Message: <blockquote data-quote="That One Guy" data-source="post: 4502068" data-attributes="member: 64672"><a href="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93222" target="_blank">This</a> and the Compendium updates seem to indicate what we are going to see, classwise. So, what are first impressions based on the features?That Ruthless Ruffian sounds like it might take care of the wanted thuggish knee-breaking rouge. I want to see what the Rattling keyword means in play.The Fighter features being a choice of three features is CRAZY to me. I know that it might not be implemented that way, but what about a Tempest Technique, Battlerager Vigor, Combat Challenge Fighter. Wield handaxes or something in chainmail. Or even a pair of off-hand shortswords would have a nice little damage buff to all attacks. OR, is it predicted to be Challenge/Superiority/ Focus - Focus being Weapon Talent, Tempest, or Vigor? This could be more balanced, but I like the craziness mix & match options. Also, Vigor makes dipping into barbarian really sweet.Ranger Beastmaster. I mean... it sounds like it'll function like the statues - but more specialized. Probably minor actions to control. It's interesting, because I assume it replaces 2W & Bowspec. But, a ranger with a beast could still (if I understand this correctly) use Twin Strike and with a minor action Beastbite. Thet'll ramp up their DPR to a pretty extreme value, I think. However, it will make engaging and disengaging enemies much more difficult actionwise. The way I imagine it working is a fairly tactical build.Warlord has two different presences. No WIS build. I think the formatting on the Compendium is incorrect. I think Bravura and Resourceful should be in the Commanding Presence Feature choice rather than new things automatically gained. I really like both of the new one. Resourceful is the middle ground between Inspiring and Commanding. I dig it. A lot. Bravura sounds like it would be crazy in a party with [anyone who can output serious damage and takes risks].I still would've liked a ranged warlord (and maybe one of the presences presented keys off of distance... so still no knowing), maybe one keyed off of Wisdom, and a INT-Rogue. For versatile fighters and 2HFighters, I'm hoping there'll still be new feats/powers (although Cadfan's Versatile Fighter is still pretty sweet).Very excited about the new multiclass feats. I already know I'm going to get this book (He[ck], I've been sold since before 4e came out), but I would very much like to see if they are developing how I imagine they will.</blockquote>

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