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Staffan

Legend
I thought She-Hulk did a good of this format as she handled a different case each week/episode.
Yeah, I liked She-Hulk. I think a lot of people who were less than happy with it expected a more "typical" Marvel show rather than the sit-com-like show we got. Having read and loved the Dan Slott run on She-Hulk, I got pretty much exactly what I expected and it was right up my alley. Would I want every Marvel show on D+ to be like that? No, but one of them is just fine.
 

Ryujin

Legend
Yeah, I liked She-Hulk. I think a lot of people who were less than happy with it expected a more "typical" Marvel show rather than the sit-com-like show we got. Having read and loved the Dan Slott run on She-Hulk, I got pretty much exactly what I expected and it was right up my alley. Would I want every Marvel show on D+ to be like that? No, but one of them is just fine.
I think it's the sort of thing that we need, once in a while, just like the Star Trek franchise needed "Lower Decks."
 

Yeah, I liked She-Hulk. I think a lot of people who were less than happy with it expected a more "typical" Marvel show rather than the sit-com-like show we got. Having read and loved the Dan Slott run on She-Hulk, I got pretty much exactly what I expected and it was right up my alley. Would I want every Marvel show on D+ to be like that? No, but one of them is just fine.

I just did a binge/re-watch on the weekend, which is why it was fresh in my mind.
Fun show.
 

Clint_L

Legend
I tend to agree, though I would de-emphasize the arc aspect. Look at the first half of Buffy or, for that matter, Claremont-era X-Men. For the most part, each episode is its own thing, but there are things going on there that feed into the overall narrative – both plot-wise and character development-wise.

For example, take the Buffy episode Halloween (season 2, episode 6). The A-plot is fairly simple: a new costume shop opens in town just in time for Halloween, with very competitive prices, so many people buy their costumes there. But it turns out the proprietor is a chaos sorcerer, who has enchanted his costumes so that they will actually turn their wearers into what the costume is. So Xander turns into a soldier, Willow turns into a ghost (but retains her self-awareness), and Buffy into a pre-French revolution noblewoman. Hijinks ensue, Spike tries to take advantage of the situation, but the spell is eventually broken and everyone returns to normal. So on the immediate level, this is a one-and-done episode.

But at the same time, this is the introduction of Ethan Rayne, an old "friend" of Giles. And we learn that Giles has a bit of a shady history – Rayne calls him "Ripper". And the thing that breaks the spell is when Giles beats Rayne up until he is told how to reverse the spell. This reveals new aspects of Giles's character as well as introduce a recurring character from Giles's past. And another factor that will later get a callback is that apparently Xander retains memories of his soldier self, which will be used to great effect in a later episode this season. But these are all background things that take a while to come to fruition and will later lead to "Hey, it's that guy again!" rather than plots that continue directly into the next episode.
Just a shout out from someone who is currently re-watching both Buffy and Angel with my spouse. The Ethan Rayne episodes are all fantastic. And I know Whedon is cancelled these days for valid reasons, but the guy knew how to plot action/fantasy/comedy (obviously, given his fingerprints all over the MCU). I agree that the MCU needs to get back to each film working as its own thing...and even more so their TV shows - it would be nice to see one where you could just watch an episode and feel like you got a complete story arc, even as it it tied into the rest. I thought Ms. Marvel kinda pulled that off until the final few episodes.

You know what current (ish) show does that great? Reservation Dogs.
 

Clint_L

Legend
I thought She-Hulk did a good of this format as she handled a different case each week/episode.
Hmmm...I thought it erred too much on the 4th wall break side for me to really buy in. It had fun moments but I felt it was kind of disjointed overall, and the bad CGI took me out of the action scenes. I'd give it three stars - I don't regret watching it, but I'm not really missing it.
 

Staffan

Legend
Hmmm...I thought it erred too much on the 4th wall break side for me to really buy in. It had fun moments but I felt it was kind of disjointed overall, and the bad CGI took me out of the action scenes. I'd give it three stars - I don't regret watching it, but I'm not really missing it.
Again, very much in the vein of the source material.
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Hmmm...I thought it erred too much on the 4th wall break side for me to really buy in. It had fun moments but I felt it was kind of disjointed overall, and the bad CGI took me out of the action scenes. I'd give it three stars - I don't regret watching it, but I'm not really missing it.

I've always liked 4th wall breaking, from Annie Hall to Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
I particularly like how She Hulk referenced writing techniques such as A and B storylines etc... I thought it's usage was pretty clever.

I brought it up as an example of a marvel show with a 'story of the week' format.
 


I am aware. But I don't judge a show based on its fidelity to source material, I assess it based on how well it works in itself. I found She-Hulk to be mostly entertaining and hard to take seriously.
Most of the humour fell flat for me. Jokes around pop stars I’ve never heard of don’t really work. And the ending was far too silly and meta. Like you, I don’t care how true to the comics it is, I just want to be entertained.

I did manage to sit though the whole series though, so it did better than Echo and Secret Shenanigans.
 

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