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<blockquote data-quote="masdog" data-source="post: 8916711" data-attributes="member: 7039919"><p>A lot of the mobile games are also ad-supported and have some sort of advertising everywhere, including ad-based micro transactions where you get something for watching an ad instead of handing over money. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I know the one slide people were throwing around was fake. But I think it also came up in the DNDShorts video where his "sources" say that number was thrown around. Or maybe I'm misremembering things.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not familiar with the PS Plus plans, but I went and looked them up. Those subscriptions let you use it one one PS4 and one PS5 and do some degree of family sharing. With the discounts and monthly content, you basically get a bunch of benefits for the cost of two games per year.</p><p></p><p>I'm more familiar with the Switch, which has a family plan. That said, Nintendo doesn't do multi-device very well...but there is still a bunch of value there in the virtual console library, family controls, and online play.</p><p></p><p>The same goes for cell phones. There is a lot of base value in giving kids cellphones such as being able to communicate at any time. And the monthly financial cost isn't what it used to be. Family plans significantly reduce the cost of phone service, and some of the carriers are starting to offer free lines as part of family plans. I don't know if this is true for everyone, but my oldest is using a hand-me-down device. </p><p></p><p>But back to the point. If the $30 a month cost is true (and that is disputed), then there is a huge difference between PS Plus Premium at $120/year and whatever the online D&D service could cost at potentially 3x that price.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's fair.</p><p></p><p>And you're right. We don't know what the potential tiers might be, or what those tiers might include. Some of this might be doomcasting. </p><p></p><p>But even tiered subscriptions with unlockable content via micro transactions gives me pause as a parent. I'd have a hard time justifying that subscription for myself. There is no way I'd do it for my kids. I'd ask them if they really need a 3D VTT and if they've tried "cheaper" alternatives like Pathfinder or Level Up or collecting Pokemon cards.</p><p></p><p>Note: I say "cheaper alternatives" because they're not an on-going monthly or yearly subscription. The physical books may cost more than a month of a service, but they're on-time expenses. And if they're not used for a few months, I'm not out anything...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="masdog, post: 8916711, member: 7039919"] A lot of the mobile games are also ad-supported and have some sort of advertising everywhere, including ad-based micro transactions where you get something for watching an ad instead of handing over money. I know the one slide people were throwing around was fake. But I think it also came up in the DNDShorts video where his "sources" say that number was thrown around. Or maybe I'm misremembering things. I'm not familiar with the PS Plus plans, but I went and looked them up. Those subscriptions let you use it one one PS4 and one PS5 and do some degree of family sharing. With the discounts and monthly content, you basically get a bunch of benefits for the cost of two games per year. I'm more familiar with the Switch, which has a family plan. That said, Nintendo doesn't do multi-device very well...but there is still a bunch of value there in the virtual console library, family controls, and online play. The same goes for cell phones. There is a lot of base value in giving kids cellphones such as being able to communicate at any time. And the monthly financial cost isn't what it used to be. Family plans significantly reduce the cost of phone service, and some of the carriers are starting to offer free lines as part of family plans. I don't know if this is true for everyone, but my oldest is using a hand-me-down device. But back to the point. If the $30 a month cost is true (and that is disputed), then there is a huge difference between PS Plus Premium at $120/year and whatever the online D&D service could cost at potentially 3x that price. That's fair. And you're right. We don't know what the potential tiers might be, or what those tiers might include. Some of this might be doomcasting. But even tiered subscriptions with unlockable content via micro transactions gives me pause as a parent. I'd have a hard time justifying that subscription for myself. There is no way I'd do it for my kids. I'd ask them if they really need a 3D VTT and if they've tried "cheaper" alternatives like Pathfinder or Level Up or collecting Pokemon cards. Note: I say "cheaper alternatives" because they're not an on-going monthly or yearly subscription. The physical books may cost more than a month of a service, but they're on-time expenses. And if they're not used for a few months, I'm not out anything... [/QUOTE]
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