Matt Colville weighs in.
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darjr
I crit!
They see that as the goal, the promise. Oh they see us as WoW! Winning.
overgeeked
B/X Known World
To paraphrase: I don’t care I’m still free, they can’t take the dice from me.
darjr
I crit!
Stealling that.
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
Even a bad WoW is going to make them more money than the best version of a TTRPG ever could.
Publicly-traded companies exist to make money; if this path could make them more money they're basically obligated to do it.
I get Matt's despair here, though I remain hopeful that this isn't actually what they want to do. That they'd like to keep the RPG going strong, instead of sacrificing it on the altar of their other monetization schemes. But I certainly don't know that this is what they want to do.
And, it's still possible that whatever their scheme is crashes and burns. Hasbro's been pretty great about entirely falling on their own faces with most of their portfolio.
Publicly-traded companies exist to make money; if this path could make them more money they're basically obligated to do it.
I get Matt's despair here, though I remain hopeful that this isn't actually what they want to do. That they'd like to keep the RPG going strong, instead of sacrificing it on the altar of their other monetization schemes. But I certainly don't know that this is what they want to do.
And, it's still possible that whatever their scheme is crashes and burns. Hasbro's been pretty great about entirely falling on their own faces with most of their portfolio.
mamba
Hero
Is that why so many MMOs closed down?
overgeeked
B/X Known World
There’s no place I can’t be
Since I found the RPG
You can’t take the dice from me
Since I found the RPG
You can’t take the dice from me
I'm A Banana
Potassium-Rich
Fair point!
FWIW, I think WoW is a slightly dated thing for what they're actually going for. Colville mentions loot boxes. If that's near the target, it's more free-to-play / freemium online tabletop or something. A live service. Which can be a lot cheaper to launch than a full MMO.
TerraDave
5ever, or until 2024
But will they get there? They may try, they have before.
But there is a D&D mmorg. If that couldn't compete with WoW, what makes them think they can now compete with Roblox or Fortnite?
But there is a D&D mmorg. If that couldn't compete with WoW, what makes them think they can now compete with Roblox or Fortnite?
overgeeked
B/X Known World
Take my lore, take my brand
Take ‘em both and make ‘em bland
I don’t care, I’m still free
You can’t take the dice from me
(Apologies to Sonny Rhodes.)
Take ‘em both and make ‘em bland
I don’t care, I’m still free
You can’t take the dice from me
(Apologies to Sonny Rhodes.)
Clint_L
Hero
I work with a lot of young players. Those hyperbolic, dystopian tweets are ridiculous. Young players like making characters and debating rules and hanging out with their friends, the same as we did. They will also do it online if they have to, and some will use VTTs to enhance their games even in person (it's a LOT cheaper than miniatures!), but this is not going to suddenly become Fortnite. Come on. How would that even work?
Kids want to hang out with friends. It's not like they will suddenly not be human teenagers anymore because a VTT is available. It's not like they will stop being creative and imaginative. Every new technology always makes us old people freak out because we assume that if it isn't the same as it was for us, it must be broken and wrong.
Kids want to hang out with friends. It's not like they will suddenly not be human teenagers anymore because a VTT is available. It's not like they will stop being creative and imaginative. Every new technology always makes us old people freak out because we assume that if it isn't the same as it was for us, it must be broken and wrong.
Clint_L
Hero
Here's a thought: maybe young people will take new technology and use it to enhance their natural curiosity, imagination, and creativity. You know...just like we did. Just like young humans have always done. Young folks no sooner invent a new tech than even younger folks start hacking it. It's the way of the world. Oh, and older folks complain about it. The circle of life.
Scribe
Legend
Which is honestly laughable on so many fronts at this point.
Wizards doesnt have it in them. They really really really REALLY dont.
DarkCrisis
Reeks of Jedi
5th Ed players: “D&D is being taken over by a new younger crowd with different values.”
5th ed players mad at the even younger crowd with different values taking over D&D
Hey look, things really do move in circles.
5th ed players mad at the even younger crowd with different values taking over D&D
Hey look, things really do move in circles.
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