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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9372375" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Based on what study with what results? It is possible that the improvements to the monk would make people rate the rogue lower, but we have no evidence to assume that that ever happened in any of the surveys. We have no reason to assume that a class that got improved scored lower because another class got improved even more. I know I largely looked at each class in isolation to see how it was meant to function. Even with the release of UA8, I am not currently convinced that the Rogue is going to be doing poorly in the future, simply because other classes also got boosts. Because I am not convinced that I should be looking at a Rogue against every other class, and comparing them only where the rogue is weaker than that class. For example, while Monks are faster than the rogue on paper, Monk combat involves getting into and being within melee. The Rogue does not have that limitation, and is equally comfortable with a crossbow 80 ft away. So while the monk may be able to triple dash and cover 150 ft, they can't attack. The Rogue can double dash 60 ft and still hit a target 80 ft away, for a total engagement of 140 ft. Slightly less distance, but still an effective attack. A monk might have very powerful damage mitigation, but the rogue can be hiding 80 ft away from the enemy, giving them no recourse into attacking them at all, let alone damaging them. And Monks have poorer skills than Rogues. I simply don't see the rogue as any worse off now than they were in UA6.</blockquote>

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