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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Soulknife_Infiltrator" data-source="post: 9373365" data-attributes="member: 7040881">I really wonder why you admit fixing other classes' problems could be considered "needed" while Rogue being the absolute weakest class in the game isn't a problem that "need" to be fixed. All the examples you've just made clearly conveyed the situation that Rogue is facing now. It has nothing particular and nothing outstanding as a class. It has nothing that other classes can't do. It's only being "Okay" among Martials but this is a game where almost every class has its "OP" option.Among three pure Martials that has no access to Magic, Fighters have the best damage burst with Action Surge. Monks are the best Skirmisher with all kinds of features. Barbarians are the toughest Tank with Rage, and no one could "replicate" others' core features. Those features are distinctive enough to be the "OP" option for those classes to be irreplaceable.But Rogues are...what exactly?? What feature could be their "OP" option exclusive to Rogues that makes the class distinctive? You could say it's the "best skills" in 5e, but do they really that outstanding in 5.5e now? Or do their Skill Checks could have stronger effects that other can't have? No, they don't, and the Skill System still  sucks and does little effects for most of the time.This is a game that literally every class has their "OP" button for them to be a hero in an adventure, but what does a Rogue have? What thing could they and only they can do while other can't? Nothing! And this is definitely a pure bad designing to make a class so not-special that looks like a "a mix of everything but weaker, and without magic". More importantly, all above are based on not considering Casters and Half-Casters, while Martials are already weaker than Casters.Lastly, I don't know do you play Rogues a lot like it's your main class, or do you just play it sometimes. Cuz I really don't understand why Rogue must be the weak one "to prevent powere creep", this is hilarious to say.</blockquote>

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