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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9375574" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Not everyone needs to be a frontliner. A rogue is a switch hitter, front line or back line. And the last three editions have not made the whole focus of the game combat, as I have had many sessions in 5e that are non-combat sessions. However, making all characters competent in all pillars seems better to me than turning to one or two party members and saying "okay, for the next twenty minutes, only you get to play the game"And I only know Farfied and Gray Mouser because people mention them on these forums, I have literally never heard of them anywhere else, and no one else has ever mentioned them. I also have no idea who Regis, Danny Ocean, Ethan Hunt, Mal, Zoe or Jayn are. Though I have heard a little bit about Firefly from the grapevine. However, my point at throwing my own list of names at you was to show that these archetypes are not limited, and some of your criteria is is haphazard at best. You mention Hon Solo doesn't fight on the frontline, as in, with a melee weapon... neither do the VAST VAST majority of Star Wars characters. Other than Jedi or Sith with lightsabers in the first 6 movies (haven't seen the newest ones) EVERYONE uses guns. Are we going to say that the Stormtroopers, literal soldiers of the empire are not fighters because they use guns? You also have to consider the genre. A Rogue character in a movie about fighting monster bugs is going to have combat capabilities, because a conman with a silver tongue who can't fight doesn't make a good member of a team of fighters in a story about following that team fighting. That's why it seems silly to me that you are taking a Spy like Bond and saying he has Fighter and Artificer levels. Sure, he uses gadgets.. it is a high action spy movie, gadgets are part of the genre.No, there is no requirement to be on the front-lines. The requirement is to be capable of fighting. And rogues, as they are, can fight, and can fight fairly well.And yet, if you want to build a spy character... you'd go with a rogue. Even if it meant cutting the gadgets, because you aren't going to use the Fighter's heavy plate mail on a spy like Bond or Twilight.</blockquote>

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