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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 4589860" data-attributes="member: 3400">Consider that the meat of A4 was how to survive and escape the dungeon and then take revenge and regain your gear without your usual suite of powers - spells, protective devices, weapons, misc magic in 1e. Now consider that the vast majority of those abilities are inherent to the character in 4e with no clear way of preventing someone from accessing them.In 1e-3e, removing those powers is easy as pie... well, as easy as capturing the characters at any rate. Is there even a mechanism for doing similar in 4e? I suppose keeping the PCs from having an extended rest would keep them away from their dailies and from regaining healing surges. But you'd have to really step up the time-table in A4 or run lots of wandering critters after them to prevent them from just regaining them with an immediate rest. But I don't know of any way to deprive them of their encounter powers or at wills or, in most cases, preventing them from using them with the random oddments of improvised weapons they manage to find in the caverns. It would have to be a very different scenario as far as I can tell.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 4589860, member: 3400"] Consider that the meat of A4 was how to survive and escape the dungeon and then take revenge and regain your gear without your usual suite of powers - spells, protective devices, weapons, misc magic in 1e. Now consider that the vast majority of those abilities are inherent to the character in 4e with no clear way of preventing someone from accessing them. In 1e-3e, removing those powers is easy as pie... well, as easy as capturing the characters at any rate. Is there even a mechanism for doing similar in 4e? I suppose keeping the PCs from having an extended rest would keep them away from their dailies and from regaining healing surges. But you'd have to really step up the time-table in A4 or run lots of wandering critters after them to prevent them from just regaining them with an immediate rest. But I don't know of any way to deprive them of their encounter powers or at wills or, in most cases, preventing them from using them with the random oddments of improvised weapons they manage to find in the caverns. It would have to be a very [i]different[/i] scenario as far as I can tell. [/QUOTE]

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