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<blockquote data-quote="TheHirumaChico" data-source="post: 8011182" data-attributes="member: 7022501">Hi.&nbsp; My players and I are playing NOW and we're seeking an action mechanic that would provide a more direct path to rendering the opponent unconscious, which is a common genre motif in many action films, books, comics, etc.I found the sap weapon:&quot;Stunned&quot; = Dazed per a prior clarification elsewhere in this forum, presumably at level 1.&nbsp; But Dazed 1 is not unconscious, neither is Dazed 2, though no actions is close the functional equivalent.&nbsp; The &quot;Sleeping&quot; condition says that &quot;the target is sent to sleep by magic or a heavy blow.&quot;&nbsp; This latter portion of the description seems to be more aligned with the Sap intent (heavy blow), but again, Sleeping 1 = &quot;You are drowsy and lethargic. You may only act once each turn&quot; is not Unconscious.&nbsp;&nbsp; One still needs to reach Sleeping 2, &quot;You are asleep, and cannot be woken&quot;, which I think can be reasonably interpreted to be the equivalent to Unconscious.&nbsp; Or one can use the Eons 129 - Extreme Conditions, but then Unconscious is only accessible via Dazed 3.I know that &quot;it's my game&quot; and I can change things as I and my players see fit, but I'm wondering if it was a deliberate design choice to not have any direct knockout pathways via level 1 conditions?&nbsp; Even the Called Shots options provide no pathway to the Dazed or Sleeping conditions.&nbsp; Maybe I'm missing the rationale for what is a deliberate choice?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheHirumaChico, post: 8011182, member: 7022501"] Hi. My players and I are playing NOW and we're seeking an action mechanic that would provide a more direct path to rendering the opponent unconscious, which is a common genre motif in many action films, books, comics, etc. I found the sap weapon: "Stunned" = Dazed per a prior clarification elsewhere in this forum, presumably at level 1. But Dazed 1 is not unconscious, neither is Dazed 2, though no actions is close the functional equivalent. The "Sleeping" condition says that "the target is sent to sleep by magic or a heavy blow." This latter portion of the description seems to be more aligned with the Sap intent (heavy blow), but again, Sleeping 1 = "You are drowsy and lethargic. You may only act once each turn" is not Unconscious. One still needs to reach Sleeping 2, "You are asleep, and cannot be woken", which I think can be reasonably interpreted to be the equivalent to Unconscious. Or one can use the Eons 129 - Extreme Conditions, but then Unconscious is only accessible via Dazed 3. I know that "it's my game" and I can change things as I and my players see fit, but I'm wondering if it was a deliberate design choice to not have any direct knockout pathways via level 1 conditions? Even the Called Shots options provide no pathway to the Dazed or Sleeping conditions. Maybe I'm missing the rationale for what is a deliberate choice? [/QUOTE]

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