Medium-size Fire Giant

[Quasqueton]

I took the core rules for advancing creatures, and reversed them. Here is a stock fire giant reduced to Medium size. A change to humanoid type would only "require" changing good save from Fort to Ref.

What do you think?

FIRE MAN
Medium Giant (Fire)
Hit Dice: 7d8+28 (59 hp)
Initiative: +0
Speed: 30 ft. in half-plate armor (6 squares); base speed 40 ft.
Armor Class: 23 (+6 natural, +7 half-plate armor) touch 10, flat-footed 23
Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+11
Attack: Greatsword +11 melee (2d6+9) or rock +5 ranged (1d8+6 plus 1d6 fire)
Full Attack: Greatsword +11 melee (2d6+9) or rock +5 ranged (1d8+6 plus 1d6 fire)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Rock throwing
Special Qualities: Immunity to fire, low-light vision, rock catching, vulnerability to cold
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +2, Will +4
Abilities: Str 23, Dex 11, Con 19, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 11
Skills: Climb +5, Intimidate +6, Jump +5, Spot +4
Feats: Cleave, Improved Sunder, Power Attack
Challenge Rating: ~7?

Now you try reducing a creature to a smaller size.

Quasqueton

 

[demiurge1138]

I think it looks good, but it should be moved to the Homebrews forum. That's why it's there.

I'd say CR 5, probably.

Demiurge out.

 

[diaglo]

why does he still move 40' base?

why is he still considered Giant and not Monstrous Humanoid or just plain Humanoid?

why is this in General?

 

[Quasqueton]

I think it looks good, but it should be moved to the Homebrews forum. That's why it's there.

Well, I didn't post this for use in a campaign, or to get opinions on its usefulness. I did the "reverse advancement" to see what a giant would look like (in stats) when reduced to human size.

Could do something similar with taking a tiger and "reverse advancing" it down to a house cat. What would the result look like?

Take a purple worm and reverse advance it down to earthworm size. Tough worm?

I realize now that I wasn't very clear in my opening post.

Quasqueton

 

[Gez]

That "reverse advancement" thing isn't really supported by the rules, however it can be used to model young specimen. Your fire man could be a young fire giant "teenager", not yet of adult size, but already bigger than a kid.

 

[Flyspeck23]

why is he still considered Giant and not Monstrous Humanoid or just plain Humanoid?

Because it's a giant, although a medium-sized one? Because giants are only usually of large or larger size? Because size doesn't matter?