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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5131867" data-attributes="member: 82504">Note that means you need to build the Hybrid version for your class <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />... or maybe one of the builds for your dancer could target the seer like elements.Normally my thinking is that imaginative skinning of classes and hybriding with multiclass too with a dash of background in place to free up some of the limits ... all combined  will  Now at least give me all the classes I need without necessarily creating any new ones. The litmus test for a new class is also "Is there a healthy set of archetypes from legend myth and literature that this class will make easier or  directly".(does it bring some unique mechanics that work better than a reskinning alone will provide... sometimes the does it fit better may just be attribute emphasis/role etc hardware but those are the simple bits)Shrug you inspired me and reminded me of two character ideas that I havent found really good satisfactory methods to create yet... so thats definitely a winner even if Im not totally sure it succeeds on the litmus tests ;-)</blockquote>