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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8795662" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Fanaelialae pointed out one issue already, but there is a second. Rules text doesn't allow for the Wall of Force exploit. Wall of Force is a spell, and spells do what they say. It is immune to damage, it cannot be crossed, and it cannot be moved. There is no "set the DC" because the rules say that they simply cannot do it. But, more to the point, the class design can't improve if the entire solution is to have DMs set personal table rules that allow for these things. It essentially means that the martial characters are entirely inconsistent table to table, some will set a DC 20 to slice stone, others will say it is impossible for a steel sword to cut stone, and so they will just say the warrior ruins their weapon in the attempt. I don't want to just slice boulders, I want the class designed in such a way that at higher levels, at a minim by levels 13 and higher, the martials stop being "just  people" and become something more. As another example, when I did my big rewrite of all the classes, I looked at the Champion's Remarkable athlete. It didn't feel very remarkable, so I added a fun little quirk, when they jump the number of feet they can jump increases by their Strength score. This means that a 20 strength fighter can leap 40 ft with a running start, or leap to the top of a thirty foot building. This is crazy right? No normal person can do this... well, they aren't a normal person. They can run and jump OVER a squad of enemies to get to the target in the back. It is remarkable. And they can actually go even further with a check, though I'd have to pull back up my numbers to figure out their max distance. For the base class, I can't give flight, or teleportation and those powers don't make sense for all subclasses anyways, but if I am limited to only allowing them to interact in the physical world, then I need them to break physics, they need to be BEYOND what can be done.</blockquote>

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