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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8795666" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I think you are confusing impact with complexity. </p><p></p><p>I recently started a game where I had altered the strength system for lifting and such. I told the player with the Goliath that, because of their strength score and their little giant ability, they were strong enough to rip a tree out of the ground and swing it. They can pick up a small car. </p><p></p><p>This isn't a complicated ability, there isn't a bunch of rules to it, but they instantly started utilizing that extreme strength. They wanted to show they were upset with a bar, so they ripped the door from the hinges. They wanted to intimidate someone, so they shattered a countertop "by accident". Sure, this doesn't apply to countering things like fly or detect thoughts, but it still gives them something the wizard just can't do right now. </p><p></p><p>You can interact with the exploration and social pillars in impactful ways WITHOUT making a complicated system. In fact, a simple system is far more powerful, because it has fewer limits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8795666, member: 6801228"] I think you are confusing impact with complexity. I recently started a game where I had altered the strength system for lifting and such. I told the player with the Goliath that, because of their strength score and their little giant ability, they were strong enough to rip a tree out of the ground and swing it. They can pick up a small car. This isn't a complicated ability, there isn't a bunch of rules to it, but they instantly started utilizing that extreme strength. They wanted to show they were upset with a bar, so they ripped the door from the hinges. They wanted to intimidate someone, so they shattered a countertop "by accident". Sure, this doesn't apply to countering things like fly or detect thoughts, but it still gives them something the wizard just can't do right now. You can interact with the exploration and social pillars in impactful ways WITHOUT making a complicated system. In fact, a simple system is far more powerful, because it has fewer limits. [/QUOTE]
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